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re: Is Mainieri on the hot seat for next year?
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:52 pm to josh336
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:52 pm to josh336
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No one likes it, but it happens to everyone. But lets not get ahead of ourselves. They haven't even played next season yet, one that we should all expect LSU to host, they will be loaded.
I hear you say this, but I don't see all this talent you are talking about in terms of being loaded. Our fundamentals are bad, our defense is not that strong, and we can't hit. I personally see the talent declining here over the past few years....had we not had excellent pitching this year, we would have had a very rough year...we can't always expect that.
LSU has led the nation in attendance, has a brand new facility, has won 6 titles in the last 20 years, and appeared at Omaha about 15 times in last 26 years. Expecting them to make it every year is unrealistic, and expecting them to win it every year is way unrealistic....but a program like lsu is one of the elite programs in the nation, and should be able to get top talent and top coaching....IF LSU does not go to Omaha next year, then it will make 5 times in 6 years that they didn't go. I remember when we expected to not only go, but be competetive. I don't think that is too much to respect from an elite program. You guys love you some PM...but you have to admit the coaches he has hired haven't exactly been great...and that talent he has gotten isn't all that great. Y'all say he overachieved.....well he is responsible for bring in talent and coaches......we should overachieve every once in a while. He isn't a terrible coach....but our defense and hitting are just not that good...and we run the bases terrible..poor fundamentals.....
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:58 pm to VC
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I hear you say this, but I don't see all this talent you are talking about in terms of being loaded. Our fundamentals are bad, our defense is not that strong, and we can't hit. I personally see the talent declining here over the past few years....had we not had excellent pitching this year, we would have had a very rough year...we can't always expect that.
LSU has led the nation in attendance, has a brand new facility, has won 6 titles in the last 20 years, and appeared at Omaha about 15 times in last 26 years. Expecting them to make it every year is unrealistic, and expecting them to win it every year is way unrealistic....but a program like lsu is one of the elite programs in the nation, and should be able to get top talent and top coaching....IF LSU does not go to Omaha next year, then it will make 5 times in 6 years that they didn't go. I remember when we expected to not only go, but be competetive. I don't think that is too much to respect from an elite program. You guys love you some PM...but you have to admit the coaches he has hired haven't exactly been great...and that talent he has gotten isn't all that great. Y'all say he overachieved.....well he is responsible for bring in talent and coaches......we should overachieve every once in a while. He isn't a terrible coach....but our defense and hitting are just not that good...and we run the bases terrible..poor fundamentals.....
Agree with pretty much everything you say. Just for the record, if they didn't make it next year, it would be only the 4th time in the past 6 years. They made it in 2008 and 2009. The problem, obviously, is with 4 straight years of not making it.
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He admitted publicly he was not as hands as he was when he got here. Would of canned him then for not fulfilling his obligation of a coach.
Therein lies much of the problem. Yes, he admitted to dropping the ball after winning in 2009. But should an apology really be a justifiable reason for the drop in talent level? Does that apology buy him another couple of years to fix the problem?
I'm glad he recognized his problem and admitted his error, but that doesn't change the expectations and that shouldn't buy him more time. This was a product of his own doing and he remains accountable for it.
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 7:00 pm
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