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re: How meaningful are STARS? Player evaluations
Posted on 6/12/12 at 2:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 6/12/12 at 2:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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How is that not producing? You are doing nothing but cherry picking data.
check out where they have been ranked for the last five years and see what their record has been the last two. That's not cherry picking. that is a fact. If you want to say their ranking was accurate during the time they were successful then they have been inaccurate during the time they haven't been successful. you can't have it both ways.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 2:33 pm to dos crystal
Rankings from these sites are just average. If these guys were really THAT good at evaluating, they would be coaching or working for the schools/NFL in some capacity.
Plus, you have to keep in min that there's a lot more to these kids than their upside or stars. Character, grades, etc are all factors as well that aren't taken into consideration by these sites.
Plus, you have to keep in min that there's a lot more to these kids than their upside or stars. Character, grades, etc are all factors as well that aren't taken into consideration by these sites.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 3:24 pm to dos crystal
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ranked for the last five years and see what their record has been the last two. That's not cherry picking. that is a fact.
No that's cherry picking. 3 years ago they were 13-1, won their conference played the BCS CG and finished #2. The year before that, they were 12-1, were in a 3 way tie in their division, beat both teams in the CCG, won a BCS bowl and finished in the #3. So they had 2 bad years after that Lots of factors, including recruiting some highly ranked QB's that did not pan out, having small classes (in 08 and 09 they only signed 20 guys each year) along with bad coaching.
Also that's 1 team. Alabama had top 5 classes in 2008, 09 and 10 and went 36-4 in 09,10,11 with 2 BCS Titles. LSU was 8, 2 and 4 in those years and 33-7 and finished #8 and #2.
You have to look at the entire picture.
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If you want to say their ranking was accurate during the time they were successful then they have been inaccurate during the time they haven't been successful.
no, that's not what I'm saying at all. You just assume that because you want to decry the rankings as meaningless and you are looking at it as a zero sum game, that its either right or its not, it doesn't work that way.
Also you have to look at more than a year or 2. over the years the rankings are pretty good, not 100% by any means, but pretty good.
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