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re: Official French Open Discussion Thread
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:49 pm to bobbyray21
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:49 pm to bobbyray21
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I disagree. He doesn't lose to Nadal because he is mentally soft. He loses to Nadal because he just can't beat Nadal.
Agree and disagree. Nadal is an extremely tough matchup for Fed, but he's always struggled mentally against Nadal. Some of their classic matches Fed would 2-12 on break point chances whereas Rafa would be 4-5 and that would be the match. I've always though Fed was simply so dominant over the likes of Hewitt/Roddick that his mental weaknesses were never exposed until someone like Rafa came along.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:54 pm to FootballNostradamus
Dangit, I had to leave and missed the Fed & Novak matches. I saw how they both came back and it seems the Tsonga/Novak match is plenty enough worth the watch.
Any clue on when/where these matches can be seen/replayed?
Any clue on when/where these matches can be seen/replayed?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:55 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Fed would 2-12 on break point chances whereas Rafa would be 4-5 and that would be the match.
I wonder how much of this is because Nadal has a big advantage by serving wide as a lefty from the side of the court he would be serving from on break chances? That is a huge advantage for a lefty in those situations. Now granted, you still have to be good enough to place the ball where you need it.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 2:02 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Agree and disagree. Nadal is an extremely tough matchup for Fed, but he's always struggled mentally against Nadal. Some of their classic matches Fed would 2-12 on break point chances whereas Rafa would be 4-5 and that would be the match. I've always though Fed was simply so dominant over the likes of Hewitt/Roddick that his mental weaknesses were never exposed until someone like Rafa came along.
Check out this quote from an article in Grantland by Brian Phillips (a guy who I think is a good writer):
quote:
And this is basically the story of this rivalry, right? That is, one of the fundamental things that everyone seems to sense about these players is that Nadal has limitless tenacity, never gives up, gets stronger as the match progresses, and loves the fight for its own sake, while Federer, for all his sublime talent, can turn confoundingly soft on the rare occasions when the momentum turns against him. Just every now and again, there's a Strange Federer Softness. Sometimes you get the sense that he feels he's proved his point in the early games and expects the rest of the match to fall into line out of courtesy. And if it doesn't, if things don't work out as a logical extension of those first few games, he's taken aback. It's not that he lacks the mental strength to compete, more that he loses his decision-making ability because he's genuinely perplexed. He's like a ship in becalmed waters. Anyway, this third set will be vital for him.
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 6:03 am to FootballNostradamus
So what channel are the matches on today? Gotta program my DVR before I leave for work. Idk if I'm an idiot but it always seems like they make it so damn difficult to find out what channel matches are on. Thanks guys!
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