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re: College Football Live says LSU won't even win SEC West this year.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:06 pm to Thunder Tiger
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:06 pm to Thunder Tiger
quote:How is that possible when you keep referring to the "better loss" analysis? Isn't that another one?
Not that I heard. When any analysis began the "eyeball test" came out.
quote:No I don't. I did my own little analysis and I thought Bama was the better team and deserved to go. A "totality of the circumstances" inquiry, if you will.
Moreover, you just as obviously discount any analysis in favor of OSU over Bama.
quote:Try again, OSU didn't even play TCU last year. Bama steamrolled just as many teams as OSU did. No one even gave them a ballgame except LSU. OSU nearly lost to aTm and KSU.
TCU went 11-2, finished #13, and beat Boise State. OSU steamrolled most teams and didn't just beat Baylor - they hammered them by 35.
quote:Once again, that is just that one computer algorithm that is included in the BCS formula. It's not an official BCS statement, or anything close to it. There is no official set of criteria, other than the mathematical formula that calculates the totals based on the various polls. I'm not even saying that SOS and quality wins shouldn't matter, only that they shouldn't just be considered in a vacuum.
Here's another that I believe is official and specifically analyzes "beating quality opponents" and SOS (go to the bottom):
quote:I'm not the one who brought up anything about a "better loss." That's some argument someone else made that you are trying to attribute to me.
Where's the link showing that a "better loss" is caclulated?
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:36 pm to Gravitiger
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How is that possible when you keep referring to the "better loss" analysis? Isn't that another one?
Yes, it's another invaid "analysis" used to my knowledge for the first time last year.
quote:So did I, and I thought OSU was nearly as good and deserved to go. We either both discounted contrary views or neither of us did.
No I don't. I did my own little analysis and I thought Bama was the better team and deserved to go. A "totality of the circumstances" inquiry, if you will.
quote:My bad, mixed up teams. OSU still hammered Baylor and OU and won their conference.
Try again, OSU didn't even play TCU last year.
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Once again, that is just that one computer algorithm that is included in the BCS formula. It's not an official BCS statement, or anything close to it. There is no official set of criteria, other than the mathematical formula that calculates the totals based on the various polls. I'm not even saying that SOS and quality wins shouldn't matter, only that they shouldn't just be considered in a vacuum.
You earlier asked:
"If you're going to insist that someone show you where the BCS's stated goal is to match the two best teams, then you also should show us where the BCS's stated criteria are SOS, best wins, etc."
It may not be stated criteria, but they are part of a formula that in part determines BCS rankings. Conversely, no part of BCS formula concerns the "best" team, or quality of losses. And I was asking rhetorically where's the quality of loss link for all those who can't wait to rely on this non-factor.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 6:21 pm
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