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re: College Football Live says LSU won't even win SEC West this year.

Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:06 pm to
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Not that I heard. When any analysis began the "eyeball test" came out.
How is that possible when you keep referring to the "better loss" analysis? Isn't that another one?
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Moreover, you just as obviously discount any analysis in favor of OSU over Bama.
No I don't. I did my own little analysis and I thought Bama was the better team and deserved to go. A "totality of the circumstances" inquiry, if you will.
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TCU went 11-2, finished #13, and beat Boise State. OSU steamrolled most teams and didn't just beat Baylor - they hammered them by 35.
Try again, OSU didn't even play TCU last year. Bama steamrolled just as many teams as OSU did. No one even gave them a ballgame except LSU. OSU nearly lost to aTm and KSU.
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Here's another that I believe is official and specifically analyzes "beating quality opponents" and SOS (go to the bottom):
Once again, that is just that one computer algorithm that is included in the BCS formula. It's not an official BCS statement, or anything close to it. There is no official set of criteria, other than the mathematical formula that calculates the totals based on the various polls. I'm not even saying that SOS and quality wins shouldn't matter, only that they shouldn't just be considered in a vacuum.
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Where's the link showing that a "better loss" is caclulated?
I'm not the one who brought up anything about a "better loss." That's some argument someone else made that you are trying to attribute to me.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Thunder Tiger
Member since Sep 2011
2608 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:36 pm to
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How is that possible when you keep referring to the "better loss" analysis? Isn't that another one?

Yes, it's another invaid "analysis" used to my knowledge for the first time last year.
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No I don't. I did my own little analysis and I thought Bama was the better team and deserved to go. A "totality of the circumstances" inquiry, if you will.
So did I, and I thought OSU was nearly as good and deserved to go. We either both discounted contrary views or neither of us did.
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Try again, OSU didn't even play TCU last year.
My bad, mixed up teams. OSU still hammered Baylor and OU and won their conference.
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Once again, that is just that one computer algorithm that is included in the BCS formula. It's not an official BCS statement, or anything close to it. There is no official set of criteria, other than the mathematical formula that calculates the totals based on the various polls. I'm not even saying that SOS and quality wins shouldn't matter, only that they shouldn't just be considered in a vacuum.

You earlier asked:
"If you're going to insist that someone show you where the BCS's stated goal is to match the two best teams, then you also should show us where the BCS's stated criteria are SOS, best wins, etc."

It may not be stated criteria, but they are part of a formula that in part determines BCS rankings. Conversely, no part of BCS formula concerns the "best" team, or quality of losses. And I was asking rhetorically where's the quality of loss link for all those who can't wait to rely on this non-factor.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 6:21 pm
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