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Why did Fujita Get Suspended? (With Links)
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:00 pm
Posed this question in another thread: If the NFL's justification for suspending Coach Payton and Mickey Loomis was because they were warned to stop it after 09 but didnt, why did Scott Fujita get suspended when he wasnt even with the team after 09?
NFL Statement On Management Penalties
NFL Statement on Player Suspensions
Regarding Fujitia
By default, Fujita ended his involvement after the 09 season. So now you are going to go back and punish him for doing what you asked?
Then why do they keep saying the NFL hasnt shown them any evidence?
Good Article Detailing Inconsistancies.
NFL Statement On Management Penalties
quote:
. The violations were compounded by the failure of Coach Payton to supervise the players and coaches and his affirmative decision starting in 2010 (a) not to inquire into the facts concerning the pay-for-performance/bounty program even though he was aware of the league’s inquiries both in 2010 and 2012
quote:
Coach Williams now acknowledges that when he was first questioned about this matter in early 2010 he intentionally misled NFL investigators and made no effort to stop the program after he became aware of the league’s investigation.
NFL Statement on Player Suspensions
Regarding Fujitia
quote:
Scott Fujita (now with the Cleveland Browns) is suspended without pay for the first three games of the 2012 regular season. The record established that Fujita, a linebacker, pledged a significant amount of money to the prohibited pay-for-performance/bounty pool during the 2009 NFL playoffs when he played for the Saints. The pool to which he pledged paid large cash rewards for “cart-offs” and “knockouts,” plays during which an opposing player was injured.
By default, Fujita ended his involvement after the 09 season. So now you are going to go back and punish him for doing what you asked?
quote:
The NFL Players Association received the confidential March 2 and March 21 reports on the Saints matter that were distributed to the clubs. In addition, members of the NFL staff, including the NFL security investigators, met with NFLPA officials to review the results of their investigation.
Then why do they keep saying the NFL hasnt shown them any evidence?
Good Article Detailing Inconsistancies.
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Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:01 pm to elprez00
Fujita had to know he had a suspension coming down
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:04 pm to Bduhon55
quote:
Fujita had to know he had a suspension coming down
How so?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:08 pm to Suntiger
He was a defensice captain when he was with the Saints and its been said for a while that the Captains would get the penalties.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:09 pm to elprez00
quote:
Then why do they keep saying the NFL hasnt shown them any evidence?
Another party's "report" is not the same as the evidence they purportedly used to generate that report. The report can say anything and we have no way to verify it.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:11 pm to kclsufan
They gave them a "summary of evidence", whatever the frick that means.
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:13 pm to Bduhon55
quote:
He was a defensice captain when he was with the Saints
Okay, but by all counts if the Saints would've stopped after 09, we wouldn't be having this conversation. So why go back now and suspend Fujita for complying with the Commissioners instructions?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:14 pm to Patrick O Rly
"Summary of Evidence"
I say to you:
I say to you:
Posted on 5/3/12 at 2:24 pm to elprez00
quote:
If the NFL's justification for suspending Coach Payton and Mickey Loomis was because they were warned to stop it after 09 but didnt
So far they only have suspended players based on 09 "evidence". Maybe that's all they have, but maybe it isn't. Going down this path would merely push Goodell to suspend more players. This isn't about justice, it's about leverage. The Saints are being used by Goodell and there really isn't a thing they can do to stop it. Just bite the pillow and hope it ends soon.
Unless you have a way to take Goodell down, challenging him will only lead to more punishment. Although as fans we should make as much noise as possible.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:13 pm to TigerinATL
As fans we can anonymously murder that mother fricker...
then maybe that'll scare the NFL bigwigs into playing straight--i.e. no scapegoating the frick out of one of the BEST franchises to try to maneuver politically/legally and save the already TOO STINKING RICH owners a few bucks...
frick EM ALL
And no, I'm not saying I'm gonna go kill Goodell, or try to pay, influence, or in any other way cause any other person to kill Goodell... EVIDENCE THAT I AM NOT THE MURDERER!!!
LOL
then maybe that'll scare the NFL bigwigs into playing straight--i.e. no scapegoating the frick out of one of the BEST franchises to try to maneuver politically/legally and save the already TOO STINKING RICH owners a few bucks...
frick EM ALL
And no, I'm not saying I'm gonna go kill Goodell, or try to pay, influence, or in any other way cause any other person to kill Goodell... EVIDENCE THAT I AM NOT THE MURDERER!!!
LOL
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:17 pm to dropduble
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:18 pm to Bduhon55
Rufio Rufio Rufio
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:20 pm to TigerinATL
Assumption of Risk
Shouldn't the league be protected from former player lawsuits by the above? Isn't this the equivalent of a soldier suing the Army for getting shot at? Or am I spouting common sense solutions towards a problem that wont allow it?
Shouldn't the league be protected from former player lawsuits by the above? Isn't this the equivalent of a soldier suing the Army for getting shot at? Or am I spouting common sense solutions towards a problem that wont allow it?
Posted on 5/3/12 at 3:23 pm to dropduble
What will make it into Goodell's evidence vault:
Any paid consultant will consider this evidence against you to be "Quite Strong".
Any paid consultant will consider this evidence against you to be "Quite Strong".
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