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When did Greg Williams admit to running a bounty program?

Posted on 3/19/12 at 9:28 am
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 9:28 am
The only statement i have seen released by GW stated that he admitted to "pay for performance." Which im sure everyone on this board knows that is in no way admitting to running bounties and most likely GW's lawyer specifically told him to say this because it does not mention anything about bounties. Now the problem is that i keep reading articles like Florio's latest LINK and various articles on espn, fox news, cnn, and sports illustrated where it seems to me that they are trying to spin this statement as GW admitting to bounties. So if someone could post a link of another statement GW made where he admitted to this please post it.

Also love this one on ESPN LINK where it says in the title the GW admitted to bounties and then shows his statement never even mentioning it.

GW admitted to pay for performance
Bounties are a form of pay for performance
Conclusion - therefore GW admitted to bounties.

Not a valid statement. Look up premise and conclusion
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 11:32 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 9:29 am to
I didn't murder him!


I stabbed repeatedly and he stopped breathing on his own.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 9:46 am to
pay for performance is known as paying players for making interception, fumble recoveries, sacks, ect. Your statement just showed how incredibly ignorant you are.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 9:50 am to
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pay for performance is known as paying players for making interception, fumble recoveries, sacks, ect.


Which is still completely against NFL rules and violations they were being warned about.

quote:

Your statement just showed how incredibly ignorant you are.



Touche.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 9:58 am to
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I didn't murder him!


I stabbed repeatedly and he stopped breathing on his own.
Pay for performance (while against NFL rules) is MUCH different than the "bounty program" the media is blowing way out of proportion. Regardless of whether told to stop or not, if the accusations were simply pay for performance, this would have been forgotten by now.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:00 am to
Touche? I never said it wasnt. I asked a question as to when he admitted to bounties BC the media is obviously trying to spin it that way I.e. the ESPN link in the op. Now if I wanted to talk about the legality of pay for performance in the NFL I would have made thread with the appropriate header but I didnt. So your statement is not only worthless but I'm now questioning your intelligence.
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 10:01 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:10 am to
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Touche? I never said it wasnt. I asked a question as to when he admitted to bounties BC the media is obviously trying to spin it that way I.e. the ESPN link in the op. Now if I wanted to talk about the legality of pay for performance in the NFL I would have made thread with the appropriate header but I didnt. So your statement is not only worthless but I'm now questioning your intelligence.


Touche Touche.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:12 am to
You ask when Greg Williams admitted to the bounties and then quote Greg Williams admitting to bounties

I like your style
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:17 am to
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I like your style


He's trying to triumph in the battle of terminology. Running the "pay for performance" which obviously means rewarding for only fumbles and sacks and not all that hitting hard and "taking out" stuff like that bad word "bounty program' does"
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:19 am to
a bounty IS a form of pay for performance
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 10:20 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:21 am to
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a bounty IS a form of pay for performance


Not in this thread. One is petting kittens, the other is throwing kittens out of moving vehicles at a speed of 79 mph.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:21 am to
He avoided the word bounty purely as a PR move. His statement implied that he was admitting to the NFL accusations of a bounty program that included performance bonuses like sacks fumbles etc
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:23 am to
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He avoided the word bounty purely as a PR move. His statement implied that he was admitting to the NFL accusations of a bounty program that included performance bonuses like sacks fumbles etc



One would think if he wasn't admitting to the accusations, there would have been some type of denial in his statement... oh wait... there wasn't.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:25 am to
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One would think if he wasn't admitting to the accusations, there would have been some type of denial in his statement... oh wait... there wasn't.


Maybe its just because of the little sleep i got last night but I honestly cant tell if youre agreeing with me or arguing with me in this thread
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:27 am to
GW admitted to pay for performance
Bounties are a form of pay for performance
GW admitted to bounties.

Lol to anyone who who thinks this right, I'm sorry but aren't very bright and you need to go back to school.

In no way does the conclusion follow the premise.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:27 am to
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Maybe its just because of the little sleep i got last night but I honestly cant tell if youre agreeing with me or arguing with me in this thread


I'm in agreement, just flaming it with sarcasm acting like the OP if i were that stupid to share his same opinion.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:29 am to
Ok, that cleared it up
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 10:30 am
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:29 am to
Why would he specifically admit to bounties when pay-for-performance is all-encompassing?

Did he deny running a bounty program?

THINK MAN!
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15960 posts
Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:33 am to
In the post right above your last I just broke it down in simple philosophy. Lol any half way intelligent person should be able to see how its wrong to say that admitting to pay for performance is admitting to bounties. The sad thing is, you are probably an lsu grad
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:36 am to
You are not answering the question.

Bounty is a form of pay for performance
Gregg Williams was accused of running a pay for performance INCLUDING bounties
Gregg Williams admitted to pay for performance (did not deny anything)

Did he deny running a bounty? If not, then why would he admit to specifically running a bounty if pay for performance is all-encompassing?
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 10:37 am
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