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re: When did Greg Williams admit to running a bounty program?

Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:36 am to
So bounties are not a reward for an on the field performance act?
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:36 am to
I cant believe you fell for the simpliest PR tactic there is

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:37 am to
Sandusky "I did not molest the kid, i just gave him lots of naked hugs and spanks"
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:39 am to
Look up premise and conclusion statements. I'm in no way flaming you. This is something everyone needs to know.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Sandusky "I did not molest the kid, i just gave him lots of naked hugs and spanks"


Actually it would be like this

"We were just playing around in the shower a bit in an inappriopriate mannor that may have involved sexual acts"

OP- "Well he never said the word Molestation so obviously hes not admitting it!"
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:42 am to
I know about the flaws of deductive reasoning, but there is no flaw. Gregg Williams would be an idiot to specifically admit to running a bounty when he can just admit to the all-encompassing pay for performance.

It isn't that complicated. Are you a philosophy major or something?
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:42 am to
Not the same as my statement so therefore your statement is straw man. And I hope you know what a straw man is
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:45 am to
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Not the same as my statement


The same is what it is.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:48 am to
you do know what an ad hominem is, right?
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 10:56 am to
Psych major . Think of it this way

I am thinking of an integer
The number 2 is an integer
therefore, I am thinking of the number two.

This is the same premise conclusion statement that the media and obviously ppl on this board are trying use to say the GW admitted to bounties. Its just plain wrong. The media should definitely know this wrong but they write it anyway and it terrible reporting BC it is not reporting any facts just biased bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 2:55 pm
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:00 am to
But he said sexual acts so therefore he admitted sexually assaulting a minor and could be charged with that. You are totally twisting another statement to make it the sameas mine and it doesn't work
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:01 am to
this isn't fricking psychology! It is a PR issue.

Why admit to something inherently viewed as wrong when you can admit to something that sounds acceptable to the public.

Why admit to a bounty program when you can admit to pay for performance?

It isn't that complicated!

And you logic is flawed.

It is more like:
NFL accuses GW of thinking of the number 2
the number 2 is an integer
GW admits to thinking of an integer but does not deny thinking of the number 2

although that is a pretty stupid example, hopefully you can see the difference.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:02 am to
I did not have sex with that woman. Depending on your definition of sex. I did shove cigars in her pussy and get a few blowjobs under the oval office desk. But i did not have sex with that woman
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:02 am to
quote:

But he said sexual acts so therefore he admitted sexually assaulting a minor and could be charged with that.


This totally sounds like whole pay for performance therefore bounty issue we are having. too easy.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:15 am to
I never said it has to deal with psychology. You asked if I was a philosophy major and I say no I'm a psych and you automatically assume i have been trying to make this about psychology. How did reason to that.

Think of it this way if the NFL investigates and accuses tampa bay for paying players for making interceptions. The coach comes out and says in a statement that he admits to paying for performance.

Now where does he say the he admitted to bounties. But somehow you would think he was admitting to bounties BC pay for performance encompasses bounties. Seriously how did the Tampa bay coach admit to bounties?

The NFL said new orleans was investigated for bounties and paying players for interceptions ect. To deductively reason that GW meant bounties in his pay for performance admission is not valid. Just like my number statement earlier
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 2:58 pm
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:16 am to
Ha as always your flames are hilarious but have nothing to do with what I'm talking about
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:23 am to
Uh just saw this post. Do you actually know what it means? Please explain how it applys to this discussion. Don't throw out words in philosophy without explaining your reasoning or how you arrived to your conclusion to ask me about ad hominem
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:37 am to
No its more like

The NFL accused GW of thinking of number 2
GW admits to thinking of an integer
GW must have been thinking of the number 2

How does this make sense. You can't come to the conclusion of a specific when nothing points to that specific. GW could have been talking about any type of pay for performance.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:39 am to
Wow, guys.

This thread...

Please let it die.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:59 am to
quote:


Please let it die.



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