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re: Why are Phil Rizzuto & Pee Wee Reese in the HoF and Alvin Dark not?

Posted on 2/22/12 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/22/12 at 5:54 pm to
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Rizzuto is in because of a concerted media campaign to get him in. It was one of the most well-organizaed campaigns in HOF history. Using Rizzo as a standard for future indicutions is a mistake, as he was a very weak candidate. I'm actually shocked Mattingly isn't in the Hall because no one crams in their marginal players to the Hall better than the Yankees.


Figured something like this was the case. He strikes me as a better image than ball player.
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Alvin Dark is not getting in for the exact reason mentioned -- he is viewed by the baseball establishment as a Southern racist, who hated Jackie Robinson. Hating Jackie is an unrecoverable sin (though, he hated Jackie because he was a Giant -- Dark loved Willie Mays). Dark was also manager of some great A's teams, which he doesn't get enough credit for. He was winning World Series in the 1970s.


This I Don't understand because both Jackie and Willie defended him. Hell he has a documented friendship with Jackie off the field.

Secondly, as a manager, he is credited with rearranging the locker room to encourage the integration between the blacks and whites.

The notion that he was a racist is unfounded to me.

And you are right, he was a very good manager.

Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5744 posts
Posted on 2/22/12 at 6:19 pm to
Maybe he won't get in from his playing days but don't you think he warrants consideration based solely on his managerial resume?
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