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re: Idaho Statesman on Trent Johnson
Posted on 12/13/11 at 9:56 am to guttata
Posted on 12/13/11 at 9:56 am to guttata
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He's had plenty of time to get his guys in here. They are still not competitive in the sec. Time for him to go and for Alleva to find someone who can make LSU competitive.
I wouldn't call 2.5 years "plenty" of time to get his guys here, but yes, the "we need more time to get big recruits" argument has run its course. 08-09 was great. 09-10 was bad, but it wasn't necessarily unexpected. 10-11 was worse than expected and the program has lost players for various reasons.
This is a defining year for TJ. He MUST show tangible signs of improvement. I'm not going to blast him for not being competitive in the SEC this year, since this year's SEC schedule hasn't started. I expect 6-10 wins in conference. Six is the absolute minimum (and even still may not be enough keep him around). The SEC has some really good teams at the top, but early on it looks like there are some "dogs" at the bottom.
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:32 am to Alt26
He needs to win this year to keep his job and I haven't seen anyone argue otherwise. I think the NIT, at an absolute minimum, which should be attainable with an 8-8 or 7-9 SEC record.
LSU has talent this year and depth. His recruiting the past two years has been good. What set him back was not recruiting well his first season, coupled with a senior laden team that quickly left the cupboard bare.
Really for all of the gnashing of teeth, Johnson is only a year behind where he should be. If the year we are likely to have this year, would have taken place last year, the tone would be a lot different.
LSU has talent this year and depth. His recruiting the past two years has been good. What set him back was not recruiting well his first season, coupled with a senior laden team that quickly left the cupboard bare.
Really for all of the gnashing of teeth, Johnson is only a year behind where he should be. If the year we are likely to have this year, would have taken place last year, the tone would be a lot different.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:35 am to Alt26
Amazing that some folks won't even wait until the end of this season. All this talk about we still aren't competitive in the SEC are a little premature to say the least. As in any college sport, recruiting makes you or breaks you. Brady left Trent with a great group of seniors and he won the SEC with them. After that the cupboard was sadly lacking more than two good players. Should Trent be criticized for not getting some decent players in here right away? Sure, I did that myself. Has he finally done better now and is bringing in good players? Yes, I think so. Judge him at the end of the season, not right now. And don't think for a second that bringing another coach in won't set recruiting back another year or two. It almost always does.
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