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The best and worst move CLM has made as Head Coach at LSU...

Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:59 pm
Posted by oompaw
In piney hill country...
Member since Dec 2007
6271 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:59 pm
Worst: hiring Gary Crowton
Best: "firing" Gary Crowton

When you compare this year's roster with last year's roster, there's not that much difference. The biggest improvement has been made in QB play and that's all on the QB coach and OC.

We will be back here again next year!

Posted by HARRY3740
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
835 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:01 pm to
Definitely can't consider it the worst since we won a National Championship but I can agree with the best if we win another one this year
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14912 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:01 pm to
Worst: The Malveto two-headed "monster" at DC.
Best: Chief

Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4442 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:02 pm to
Worst: Co Defensive Coordinators
BEST: Recruiting

2nd Worse: Waiting to fire Crowton
3rd Worse: Putting Lee in situations he wasn't ready for

2nd Best: Chavis
3rd Best: ignoring the Rant
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28040 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:04 pm to
Worst-Mallveto
Best-Frank Wilson

Mallveto sunk us in 2008. Frank Wilson has got us big time recruits the last two years and that has helped right away and will in the future. We need to pay him whatever he wants.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17186 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:05 pm to
No way. Maleveto was the worst. However, had Perriloux not been a moron we would have performed much better.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10344 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:05 pm to
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Worst: Co Defensive Coordinators
BEST: Recruiting

2nd Worse: Waiting to fire Crowton
3rd Worse: Putting Lee in situations he wasn't ready for


100 % on target
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Worst: hiring Gary Crowton
Best: "firing" Gary Crowton


the hire was fine, he did a great job in 2007, should have fired him much sooner though.

As far as Malveto goes, it's clear that Les couldn't find a DC he liked after Pelini left. Had he just settled for someone below what he was looking for, we likely wouldn't have Chavis today. I think he took the approach of promoting BD and Doug, then look again the following year. It was painful in the interim, but worked out.

I would say his worst move was not hiring Jerry Rice when it was in the bag!!!
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 3:08 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15728 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:08 pm to
Best move was getting Chavis to come to LSU. I have no doubt that The Chief has saved Miles job and deserves just as much credit to the success of this team as Coach Miles himself.

Worst move is the couple clock management issues against Ole Miss and Tennessee. I think a lot of people always will question his coaching ability off these two instances and say his success falls solely on talent alone.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86409 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

3rd Worse: Putting Lee in situations he wasn't ready for
Was there really another choice there?
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:09 pm to
2nd Worse: Waiting to fire Crowton
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that was lsu's and a.d.'s decision b/c of huge buyout.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

3rd Worse: Putting Lee in situations he wasn't ready for
What should Les have done?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94735 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Worst: hiring Gary Crowton


Probably overly harsh to Crowton - he was excellent in 2007 - the problems just got worse and worse, the longer he was here. I'm not saying he was the entire problem, but there has definitely been an addition by subtraction.

Worse was "Defensive Co-coordinators", commonly referred to as "Malveto". I don't blame those guys at all, that is all on Miles - nobody's perfect.

quote:

Best: "firing" Gary Crowton


Close, probably second best in "major" decisions. Again, I'm going to lean defensive and say - hiring John Chavis.

Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I think a lot of people always will question his coaching ability off these two instances and say his success falls solely on talent alone.


A lot of people believe a lot of stupid shite...
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42084 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:12 pm to
IMO best was getting rid of the dual dc and hiring Chavis. We won a NC with Crowton, so you can't say hiring him was the worst. Firing him was def a good thing.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:28 pm to
Worst was the experiment with Mallveto at DC. LSU can afford to get by with a shitty offense, we cannot afford having a shitty defense.

Best was firing Gary Crowton. And hiring an offensive coordinator with the same philosophy he has.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13060 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:30 pm to
Hiring Gary Crowton is not even in the same league as promoting Malveto.

Crowton helped us win a NC. Thanks for that, glad he moved on.

Best move? Hiring Chavis, hands down.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78197 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:44 pm to
Can't Call putting Lee in a bad move, he literally had no other choice, besides JJ as a true freshmen, and that noodle armed QB from Harvard when he was healthy (rarely)
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:56 pm to
Worst: Malveto
Best: Chavis
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33252 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:01 pm to
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3rd Best: ignoring the Rant

Ahh...irony.

The Rant was saying this constantly for a year:
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2nd Worse: Waiting to fire Crowton
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3rd Worse: Putting Lee in situations he wasn't ready for
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Worst: Co Defensive Coordinators
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