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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Bien Fou
Laffy
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:37 am to
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so I opted for the one that is less overkill and has better ballistics.

How far would you stretch your shot and still be comfortable with your .444?
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:40 am to

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How far would you stretch your shot and still be comfortable with your .444?



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To put the power comparison in another way, the typical .444 Marlin rifle, has more impact energy at 200 yards (180 m), than a 4 in (100 mm) barreled .44 Magnum has at the muzzle.


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Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117769 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:41 am to
Everytime I shoot my 45/70 I have to say to myself, "this is gonna hurt you more than me!"

no lie, mine is sighted in and I hope it stays that way.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:50 am to
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How far would you stretch your shot and still be comfortable with your .444?



About 200 yards comfortably, but if a monster came out at 250, and gave me a broadside shot, I'd be comfortable enough to take it.

According to Hornady's ballistic chart (265 grain 444 LeverEvolution), if you are 3 in high at 100, at 200 you'll be -1.4, and at 300 you'll be -18.6.

With the 45-70 (325 grain LeverEvolution), with 3 in high at 100, you'll be -4.8 at 200, and -30.2 at 300.
Posted by ColesCreek
SW MS
Member since Apr 2011
378 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 11:00 am to
My .444 will shoot sub MOA groups at 150 yards. That said, I've never shot it at a deer that far. But I would if I had to. here is link to ballistic chart I use for it. LINK

I'm not real sure how that link will work for you, but I used the ballistic coefficient from Hornady lever revolution ammo (.225) bullet weight 265, caliber .444, Muzzle Velocity 2325, sight height of 1.8125 (yours may be different), zero range of 150, temp of 59 and pressure of 29.92 ( I think that was default), I set it at no wind.

Any way, my chart says if zeroed at 150, it'll be 4.2" low at 200, and 11.7" low at 250.

As far as would it kill a deer at what range? Who knows. There are all kinds of arguments on how much energy/bullet speed is needed to kill a deer. Farthest I've killed a deer (240 lbs) with the .444 is 100 yards. I killed a coyote at 150. Both never took a step after the 265 gr made impact.
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