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Saban thinks its unfair too....or he did
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:33 am
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Quote from an interview before the 2003 SECCG
"I heard that, and I do not really spend a lot of time on this stuff so I have no idea about it, but I heard that if we have the opportunity to play in the championship game (SEC Championship Game) and we play the team that we beat before that we would not get the same quality points for that. I think you should get more. It is hard to beat the same team twice and there are other teams that are ranked that do not even have to play because their conference does not have a conference championship game. When we beat Tennessee they were No. 2, they were going to go play in the national championship game. If they were in a conference where they didn't have to play a game they would not have had an opportunity to lose. If they have an opportunity to lose then they ought to have an opportunity to gain by having success."
Quote from an interview before the 2003 SECCG
"I heard that, and I do not really spend a lot of time on this stuff so I have no idea about it, but I heard that if we have the opportunity to play in the championship game (SEC Championship Game) and we play the team that we beat before that we would not get the same quality points for that. I think you should get more. It is hard to beat the same team twice and there are other teams that are ranked that do not even have to play because their conference does not have a conference championship game. When we beat Tennessee they were No. 2, they were going to go play in the national championship game. If they were in a conference where they didn't have to play a game they would not have had an opportunity to lose. If they have an opportunity to lose then they ought to have an opportunity to gain by having success."
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:40 am to Big Lake
Need to post this on SEC Rant...so maybe the Bammers will see this.. 
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:41 am to Big Lake
He's not complaining about having to play them again, but how the quality points worked in the BCS formula back then. It's no longer part of the BCS.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:41 am to tiger chaser
Didn't they say this about the Dawgs not to long ago?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:42 am to Big Lake
quote:
Saban thinks its unfair too....or he did
His comments were in the context of the system in 2003 - which had a "quality points" component. He was just saying LSU should get super-extra quality points for beating Georgia again.
I don't really see this as applicable to the current scenario.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:43 am to Big Lake
That was before the SEC won 5 straight.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:45 am to Tiger JJ
Related to this conversation....I cannot seem to find the quote but I also saw somewhere in 2003 where Saban also commented that he didnt believe someone who did not win their conference should be allowed to play for the NC
or something to that effect
or something to that effect
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:45 am to Tiger JJ
quote:
we play the team that we beat before that we would not get the same quality points for that. I think you should get more. It is hard to beat the same team twice
Actually is does apply to this years scenario with these words.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:45 am to Tiger JJ
His comments about Tennessee is more what i was aiming at
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:47 am to Big Lake
i agree that not playing in the sec championship game allows a team to escape a loss but the flip side of the coin is that it has also helped propel sec teams in the nc game with the win (see us in 2007--i don't think we make it if we don't get those bcs points from beating tenn).
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:51 am to TexasTiger89
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quote:
we play the team that we beat before that we would not get the same quality points for that. I think you should get more. It is hard to beat the same team twice
Actually is does apply to this years scenario with these words.
Not really. What "more" do you think LSU should get? They are #1 and headed into the title game without even having to win the SEC title.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:51 am to Shankopotomus
quote:
Related to this conversation....I cannot seem to find the quote but I also saw somewhere in 2003 where Saban also commented that he didnt believe someone who did not win their conference should be allowed to play for the NC
or something to that effect
No he did not. You cannot find it because it doesn't exist.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 11:57 am to TexasTiger89
quote:
we play the team that we beat before that we would not get the same quality points for that. I think you should get more. It is hard to beat the same team twice
Actually is does apply to this years scenario with these words.
No it doesn't. You guys don't understand how the BCS formula worked back then. There was a quality points component that was a function of the ranking of a team. I think it was based on top 10 that year. If you beat a top ten team you got a bonus. But ranking is a function of losses and if you play a team twice and beat them twice, you will get few points if any at all. It was an abomination that needed to go away and it did after that year.
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