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If Madden is right that Sandusky was a "poorly kept secret" around CFB

Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:11 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104384 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:11 am
The damage won't stop at Penn State, at least in terms of negative perception. I asked the other day whether this might bring down the money machine that has become college sports. Not many people wanted to take a swing at the question, but I still think it's a possibility.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26919 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:12 am to
This isn't a college football issue...
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:13 am to
I can see reasons for Penn State keeping it quiet, but I see no reason why another school would.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:16 am to
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The damage won't stop at Penn State, at least in terms of negative perception. I asked the other day whether this might bring down the money machine that has become college sports. Not many people wanted to take a swing at the question, but I still think it's a possibility.


THIS

It is why I am advocating severe and lasting action now, exactly why
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104384 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:30 am to
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I can see reasons for Penn State keeping it quiet, but I see no reason why another school would.


Not that another school would, but as has been said, coaching is a very tight fraternity. These guys all know each other. If the PSU staff knew, did other coaches get wind of the rumors? If they did and didn't say anything...

No legal responsibility, but it doesn't look good morally.

Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18482 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:32 am to
If Paterno and others deliberately swept Sandusky's actions under the rug to protect the football program from a scandal, then, IMHO, it is a college football issue.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:35 am to
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I asked the other day whether this might bring down the money machine that has become college sports.


I don't see that happening
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28164 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:41 am to
I could see coaches calling paterno asking about Sandusky and him telling them the accusations.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:41 am to
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it doesn't look good morally.
CFB and the NFL have not exactly been pillars of moral fortitude....ever. Like society there are good and bad to be found in the mix. Make no mistake, this is a whole other level of sick. However, what sport, in general has been regarded exemplary across the board for that matter? Like hollywood, it IS entertainment.

If anything, hopefully this stirs more people in that tight fraternity to do the right thing. (No invocation of Spike Lee.)
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:42 am to
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it is a college football issue.
I understand the tendency to globalize the issue, but IMO that is taking things too far.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37696 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:42 am to
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Not that another school would, but as has been said, coaching is a very tight fraternity. These guys all know each other. If the PSU staff knew, did other coaches get wind of the rumors? If they did and didn't say anything...


I don't think child molestation is a hot topic among football coaches.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17370 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:49 am to
You and I both know that grown men can be as bad as women in regards to the latest news & hot topics around work. It's asinine to think that this didn't leak out, and was talked about.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
9576 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 8:58 am to
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I asked the other day whether this might bring down the money machine that has become college sports.
No.
quote:

This isn't a college football issue...
This.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:00 am to
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It's asinine to think that this didn't leak out, and was talked about.


Among coaches at different schools? Im gonna need to see some evidence before I go down that road
Posted by lovemx
Palmerdale, Alabama
Member since Feb 2009
57 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:02 am to
I don't know if it was openly discussed. None of us do. But I can see another coach calling Paterno asking, Hey we're thinking about hiring Sandusky. He in good standing? And Joe Pa saying, I can't discuss why he left but my advice is look elsewhere. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Word of that would travel around very fast.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:04 am to
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It's asinine to think that this didn't leak out, and was talked about.


McQueary apparently wasn't the only one to witness stuff. A wrestling coach at a local school says he saw Sandusky "inappropriately touching" a student at the school (where Sandusky "volunteered" to help the football program). Also, the school would let boys leave the school with Sandusky without any permission from home and without notifying parents that it had happened. I don't know about Baton Rouge, but if that happened, even once, at the school my daughters attended, the administrator responsible for not making the notification, and not getting the permission slip, would be history, and the parents would know about it for sure. Seems like Sandusky had free rein around State College.
This post was edited on 11/11/11 at 9:07 am
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:04 am to
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You and I both know that grown men can be as bad as women in regards to the latest news & hot topics around work. It's asinine to think that this didn't leak out, and was talked about.


Barry Switzer was all over PSU last night!

Switzer on PSU situation

quote:

“Having been in this profession a long time and knowing how close coaching staffs are, I knew that this was a secret that was kept secret. Everyone on that had to have known, the ones that had been around a long time,” Switzer said in an interview with The Oklahoman newspaper. Former Oklahoma University and Dallas Cowboys coach Barry Switzer says members of the Penn State coaching staff had to be aware of former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky’s alleged behavior. (AP Photo) Switzer added that others outside the Penn State program had to have known as well. “You think that a 13-year assistant ... hasn’t told someone else? His wife? His father? People knew. The community knew,” Switzer said. Switzer said the tragedy of the situation was that no one stepped up to put a stop to Sandusky. “There are more people culpable than just Joe Paterno and the athletic director. There are so many other people that have thought, ‘I could’ve done something about this, too’ that didn’t come forward. That’s the tragedy of it,” he said. Read more: LINK
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46110 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:04 am to
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I could see coaches calling paterno asking about Sandusky and him telling them the accusations.



really? I could see him making up a story like "Sandusky doesn't wanna coach anymore due to _______ (health issues/ family issues/ etc", but not "nah, he's accused of molesting kids". I think he'd cover for Sandusky, not put him out there.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31210 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:05 am to
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oney machine that has become college sports.

lol

Only like 20 athletic programs in the entire nation make money.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107551 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:09 am to
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A wrestling coach at a local school says he saw Sandusky "inappropriately touching" a student at the school (where Sandusky "volunteered" to help the football program). Also, the school would let boys leave the school with Sandusky without any permission from home and without notifying parents that it had happened


Was this in the grand jury presentment?
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