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The next time someone says Big 12 is smarter than SEC,

Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:45 pm
Posted by TheBloodTypo
College Station
Member since Sep 2011
225 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:45 pm
show this thread to them.

Big 12-2-1+1-1+1
Texas #45
Baylor #75
TCU #97
Iowa State #97
Oklahoma #101
Kansas #101
Oklahoma State #132
Kansas State #143
Texas Tech #160
West Virginia #164

Average: 111.5




SEC
Vanderbilt #17
Texas A&M #58
Florida #58
Georgia #62
Alabama #75
Auburn #82
Missouri #90
Tennessee #101
South Carolina #111
Kentucky #124
LSU #128
Arkansas #132
Mississippi #143
Mississippi State #157

Average: 95.6

Class dismissed.

Rankings pulled from LINK.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 1:53 pm
Posted by smillerlsu
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2007
248 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:48 pm to
Stats are our friend!

Out of curiosity, where did those rankings come from?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Big 12-2-1+1-1+1


Holy frick.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26577 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:52 pm to
If making a case about the SEC being smarter, you should probably correct this:

quote:


Goergia



Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10414 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:54 pm to
Interesting, to be sure. But they have a shitty ranking methodology. And what would happen if they added Tulane and Notre Dame?
Posted by BoobieWatcher
Member since Jun 2010
4587 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:01 pm to
How can two be at 58?
Posted by smillerlsu
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2007
248 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:42 pm to
Here's a comparison using the same data I pulled for the AAU discussion here.

In brief, an NSF survey for FY2009 indicates that there was a total of about $55 billion in total R&D expenditures for all universities and colleges, so percentages below are of $55B.
Also, In 2005 the Carnegie Foundation removed the "Research I" nomenclature and modified the classification methodology, instead classifying Doctorate granting Universities as RU/VH (Research Universities / Very High research activity), RU/H (Research Universities / High Research activity), and DRU (Doctoral / Research Universities). So that's what the RU or DRU tags mean.
The #rank is ranking of total R&D expenditures from the NSF (links in the AAU thread linked above).

So, this comparison looks more at the research investment of each institution, and in my mind is probably more objective than the US News rankings. Anyway, check it out...

The list comparing the SEC to the Big 12-2-1+1-1+1 is as follows:

The percentage of total R&D funding going to SEC schools (plus Mizzou) is:
#20 TAMU - 1.148% ($631M) - RU/VH
#23 Florida - 1.078% ($592M) - RU/VH
#39 Vanderbilt - 0.786% ($432M) - RU/VH
#43 LSU - 0.731% ($401M) - RU/VH
#49 Kentucky - 0.680% ($373M) - RU/VH
#55 Georgia - 0.637% ($350M) - RU/VH
#70 Tennessee - 0.519% ($285M) - RU/VH
#78 Mizzouri - 0.446% ($245M) - RU/VH
#86 Mississippi State - 0.395% ($217M) - RU/VH
#99 USC(e) - 0.340% ($187M) - RU/VH
#114 Auburn - 0.261% ($144M) - RU/H
#128 Arkansas - 0.192% ($105M) - RU/VH
#140 Mississippi - 0.165% ($91M) - RU/H
#197 Alabama - 0.066% ($37M) - RU/H

The SEC is averaging $292M per member institution in R&D expenditures.

The average expenditure ranking is 81.5 for the SEC.

The percentage of total R&D funding going to the (alledged) Big 12-2-1+1-1+1 schools for R&D expenditure is:
#32 Texas - 0.922% ($506M) - RU/VH
#79 Kansas - 0.411% ($226M) - RU/VH
#81 Iowa State - 0.408% ($224M) - RU/VH
#94 Oklahoma - 0.358% ($197M) - RU/VH
#112 Kansas State - 0.266% ($146M) - RU/H
#116 WVU - 0.254% ($140M) - RU/H
#121 Oklahoma State - 0.219% ($120M) - RU/H
#146 Texas Tech - 0.146% ($80M) - RU/H
#278 Baylor - 0.021% ($11M) - RU/H
#353 TCU - 0.008% ($4M) - DRU

The Big "12" is averaging $165M per member institution in R&D expenditures.

The average expenditure ranking is 141.2 for the Big "12". (NOTE: TCU brought the average ranking down a LOT).
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 10:18 pm
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