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Amazing Study of Contrasts - Miles/Saban philosophies

Posted on 10/24/11 at 7:37 am
Posted by FTL Tiger
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2008
540 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 7:37 am
It's been mentioned ad nasueum on these boards about the differences between Miles and Saban and their coaching philosophies. While both are extremely successful, Miles' teams always appear to be having more fun, which allows them to play looser. Saban is such a hard arse, that his players sometimes seem to play tight and are afraid of making mistakes. Granted they are a well-oiled fundamentally sound machine, but never seem to be totally enjoying themselves.

I think the magnitude of the next 2 weeks is going to cause Saban much more stress. While he's busy dictating to the media trying to downplay the game and excitement, Miles is reveling in the moment. I did notice in the past in big games while at LSU that Saban appeared to get really conservative and the teams sometimes came out very tight (At Ole Miss for SEC West Championship comes to mind)

Because Miles has proven so successful with handling distractions and rolling with the punches this season, I'm going to give the edge to LSU. I think Bama tightens up in this game (including their coaching staff becoming overly conservative).

I can tell you one thing....LSU will be having much more fun these next 2 weeks enjoying the moment, and I think that translates to the field on Nov. 5.

LSU 20
Bama 13
Posted by ATH216
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
843 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 7:48 am to
Never thought of it like that but I agree!

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94666 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Because Miles has proven so successful with handling distractions and rolling with the punches this season, I'm going to give the edge to LSU. I think Bama tightens up in this game (including their coaching staff becoming overly conservative).


The teams are virtually indistinguishable, Spencer Ware "not in the same class as Richardson" notwithstanding. Bama's only significant edge is at linebacker. LSU's special teams, particularly the punt team is LSU's only significant advantage. LSU's DL is probably a little better and much deeper. Ditto for the Secondary. The OLines are a push. I think we have more guys who can make plays at receiver, but their starters are playing well enough to make this a push.

QBs are a push, except that we have 2. They have a slight edge at RB, and we have a slight edge at FB. TR and Lacy are an outstanding tandem. The fact that we have 5 guys who can play tailback will probably not factor in the outcome - but I believe we have more depth at RB.

So we come to the dreaded intangibles. Right now, today, as we sit here on October 24th, 2011 - LSU has the edge in intangibles. We'll see if that's enough.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 7:54 am to
You forgot to add in the home field (officiating) advantage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464912 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Bama's only significant edge is at linebacker.

interior DL and OL also. the LB advantage is huge

quote:

LSU's special teams, particularly the punt team is LSU's only significant advantage

our kickoffs may have an even higher advantage

but other than ST, our biggest edge is being able to pass it deep. AJ has sucked dick at throwing it deep while lee has been hitting RR deep a good bit lately (and JJ even hit one saturday)

Posted by JackTMed
Member since Jan 2004
3213 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Amazing Study


Assumptive much?

Good points though.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:00 am to
I just hope everyone stays out of trouble. That is the only way we can beat ourselves.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23315 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:03 am to
quote:

AJ has sucked dick at throwing it deep while lee has been hitting RR deep a good bit lately (and JJ even hit one saturday)
i agree QB is our biggest advantage. AJ has been serviceable as a first year starter but I place a lot of value on experience in this league. He hasn't seen anything close to what's coming in two weeks.

And your right on the deep balls; it feels like forever since weve seen a receiver hit perfectly in stride on a pass longer than 15 yards but these last 4 long TD passes to RR (UF & AU) have been picture perfect.
Posted by ChiutFan
Member since Feb 2009
264 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:03 am to
sabans an a-hole miles isnt.

You know what bama's gonna do, run the ball.

LSU between fake punts, delay blitzes, changing QB's running, going deep... wide outs taking out punt returners... You never know whats coming ...

LSU 38
Bama 14
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:04 am to
We have a very multiple offense. So in the playcalling and offense in general i give the edge to lsu

We can finally run screens effectively.
Posted by ElEsYouTigahs
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
451 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:05 am to
What scares me: Richardson running behind that mammoth OL.

Our Advantage: IMO, our passing game. I think Lee will be able to spread it around to our more talented WRs. RR, ODB, RS, and DP are the difference. I think our DBs and pass rush can shut down their passing game.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23315 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:08 am to
Copeland vs Upshaw should be epic
Posted by cookie
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2010
182 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:20 am to
we do have an edge in turnover margins:
2. LSU--1.88
19. Alabama--.75

but you're right FTL, saban's a-hole will be a tad too tight the next couple weeks hopefully translating into teeth into the curb stomping on the field by LSU.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464912 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:22 am to
saban-coached teams traditionally aren't good after a break. his teams are creatures of habit and when that's broken they often, at least, start off slowly. i have no idea why bama scheduled a bye before LSU for this reason
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:27 am to
This is a solid post. Saban is a douche who will never enjoy or let others around him enjoy things. I like CLM approach of relishing the moment and to let his players enjoy the process.
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:30 am to
quote:

What scares me: Richardson running behind that mammoth OL.


If Tenn can contain TR then LSU can. I like our chances. Ftr, our D Line aren't small players. Actually LSU D Line owned essentially the same o line last year.
Posted by bellewr
wichita falls, tx
Member since Dec 2008
417 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:32 am to
you know, our OL and DL are not a bunch of jr high players out there...geez, you would think that by all of this talk Bama is the reincarnation of the 85 Bears with Peyton Manning handing off to Walter Payton...
Posted by Abe
Member since Dec 2009
287 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:43 am to
qb is not a push. give me a break bama's qb is not that good. the big difference in the game will be our SPEED!!!!!!
Posted by Abe
Member since Dec 2009
287 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:44 am to
we will run on them and pass. i see LSU 35 ala 10
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17109 posts
Posted on 10/24/11 at 8:47 am to
quote:

lee has been hitting RR deep a good bit lately (and JJ even hit one saturday)


One thing I know for certain..Little Nicky is game planning to shut that down. It's gonna be Beckham's time to shine.
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