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To me its obvious: Gary Crowton was the problem
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:09 pm
Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes in the past few years with his style of substitution before plays...I don't remember those types of problems with Jimbo and we are not seeing them now with Stud/Krag. Miles took the heat bc the heat always rises but I think that is a part of our past at this point.
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This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:10 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Good riddence to Crowton
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:10 pm to BooHoo Tbow
His stupid packages that would sub out 5 people every other snap.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:12 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Not to rehash an old topic on here, but I still think the offense looks confused with JJ in the game, especially when he comes in the middle of a drive. I think JJ bears a little of the responsibility for the confusion as well.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:12 pm to BooHoo Tbow
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Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes in the past few years with his style of substitution before plays...
while i agree for the most part, JJ doesnt seem to manage the clock as well, and his drives havent been as smooth this year. Lee seems like he really put his head in the football books and has improved his field general skills. Not a knock on JJ, for he hasnt had a chance to develop a rythm, but i feel like Lee is a contributor in the better flow of the offense
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:24 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Stud was interviewed by local news the other day, at a presser I guess, I wasnt really paying close attention.
He blamed the UT fiasco last year on subbing in too many personnel groupings before the play and likely doing it too much during the season also. He was also very adamant in referring that it was something that was not even practiced but instead was just something that they were expected to handle when the time came during the games.
That really is unbeleivable. When you look at our offense this season compared to that, the coaching is light years better. I don't see how it can blamed on anyone but Crowton. The fact that it wasnt even practiced just makes me think of the Co-DCs back in 08.
That was some unorganized shite.
He blamed the UT fiasco last year on subbing in too many personnel groupings before the play and likely doing it too much during the season also. He was also very adamant in referring that it was something that was not even practiced but instead was just something that they were expected to handle when the time came during the games.
That really is unbeleivable. When you look at our offense this season compared to that, the coaching is light years better. I don't see how it can blamed on anyone but Crowton. The fact that it wasnt even practiced just makes me think of the Co-DCs back in 08.
That was some unorganized shite.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:24 pm to BooHoo Tbow
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Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes in the past few years with his style of substitution before plays...
Gary Crowton does not coach the "I" formation. Think about how much "I" formation LSU has run the last two seasons with Charles Scott and Stevan Ridley. Basically, it was a mix of Gary Crowton and Les Miles. That is why you had all of the substitutions. Instead of subbing in one running back, or one receiver, LSU would sub a tight end, a fullback, a new running back, and a blocking wide receiver. Both of them were to blame for the last two years.
However, this year there is one fluid philosophy and the offense is running great. LSU doesn't bounce in an out of spread and power running offenses.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:30 pm to BooHoo Tbow
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Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes
Check your quarterback out dude. Crowton may have had a complex offense, but I'd hesitate to blame him for clock management problems among other things. That stuff wasn't here w/ the QB's previous to JJ. I like JJ, but we're a lot better with him coming in and running around after the game is out of hand. Give JLEE some credit.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:35 pm to BooHoo Tbow
It was primarily on Crowton but many times JJ had the deer in the headlights look going on too.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:40 pm to BooHoo Tbow
I agree but its JJ too. Notice how they show back up when he's in.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:44 pm to BooHoo Tbow
quote:
Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor
You win as a team, you lose as a team, and you manage the clock as a team.
Having said that, only getting one sane play off in the final 32 secs of the Vol game was pretty much totally on the back of the sidelines and the end to GC's days at LSU, fair or not.
I had little doubt he would be gone at seasons end.
I will pat Lee on the back for his play, but one has to be blind not to note the change in the overall smoothness of our offensive play starts on the sideline. imo
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:53 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Only took half a season to frick up the acc freshman of the yeat. Good god that man is awful.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 1:50 pm to BooHoo Tbow
In 2010, Danny O'Brien was Maryland's quarterback. He threw for over 2400 yards and 22 TDs. The Terps boasted an impressive 9-4 record. Maryland crushed East Carolina 51-20 in its bowl game.
Danny O'Brien & Maryland 2010
Passing Efficiency Individual - 2010
#45 Danny O'Brien, Maryland QB
Passing Offense - 2010
#65 Maryland
Passing Efficiency Team - 2010
#47 Maryland
After such a successful season, hopes were high among Terrapin fans that Danny O'Brien would lead Maryland to even greater success in 2011.
Those dreams were all for naught. In the second quarter of Maryland's game with Georgia Tech last Saturday, Danny O'Brien was benched after throwing his sixth interception with only four TDs on the year.
Danny O'Brien & Maryland 2011
Passing Efficiency - 2011
#92 Danny O'Brien, Maryland QB
Passing Offense - 2011
#84 Maryland
Passing Efficiency Team - 2011
#104 Maryland
A book was discovered in Danny O'Brien's locker:
Danny O'Brien & Maryland 2010
Passing Efficiency Individual - 2010
#45 Danny O'Brien, Maryland QB
Passing Offense - 2010
#65 Maryland
Passing Efficiency Team - 2010
#47 Maryland
After such a successful season, hopes were high among Terrapin fans that Danny O'Brien would lead Maryland to even greater success in 2011.
Those dreams were all for naught. In the second quarter of Maryland's game with Georgia Tech last Saturday, Danny O'Brien was benched after throwing his sixth interception with only four TDs on the year.
Danny O'Brien & Maryland 2011
Passing Efficiency - 2011
#92 Danny O'Brien, Maryland QB
Passing Offense - 2011
#84 Maryland
Passing Efficiency Team - 2011
#104 Maryland
A book was discovered in Danny O'Brien's locker:
Posted on 10/11/11 at 3:49 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Crowton is gone and we are better off now.....I think we all know that by now. Can we move on and stop dwelling on our negatives in the past?
Posted on 10/12/11 at 1:26 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Believe it or not, I think Crowton may be a good offensive coordinator in the NFL. I think his schemes were just too complicated for college and rely heavily on a strong-armed QB.
This year, LSU has used fewer personnel packages and fewer formations, allowing them to master their craft. There just aren't enough hours in the collegiate schedule to do too many complicated things with an offense. It's better to do one thing well than be jack of all trades and master of none.
This year, LSU has used fewer personnel packages and fewer formations, allowing them to master their craft. There just aren't enough hours in the collegiate schedule to do too many complicated things with an offense. It's better to do one thing well than be jack of all trades and master of none.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 1:44 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Miles kept him
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:16 pm to BooHoo Tbow
I posted this in another thread, but I think it fits in with this thread as well...
You don't even need to look at the plays themselves to see the marked improvement of this offense. All you have to do is look at the pre-snap action.
The main difference is the packages and formations. Last year, on three consecutive plays, we would be in I-formation, then 5-wide, then basic spread formation.
Each play, we would sub in 3-5 guys... The play reached the field with about 13 seconds left on the play clock... We would line up with about 7-10 seconds left on the play clock. The plays were rushed... the players were rushed... and we lacked consistency.
This season, we have a much smaller arsenal of formations and packages, but we do many things out of the formations. We're successful in this way. The players are comfortable, the play gets in early and we're lined up with about 15-18 seconds left on the clock... this gives us more time to read the defense and we can choose to run the clock down or snap early. We didn't have that freedom the past few years.
If you don't even look at the play, and you only pay attention to the pre-snap, you will notice a huge difference from the offense we saw last season. Thank you, Krags!
You don't even need to look at the plays themselves to see the marked improvement of this offense. All you have to do is look at the pre-snap action.
The main difference is the packages and formations. Last year, on three consecutive plays, we would be in I-formation, then 5-wide, then basic spread formation.
Each play, we would sub in 3-5 guys... The play reached the field with about 13 seconds left on the play clock... We would line up with about 7-10 seconds left on the play clock. The plays were rushed... the players were rushed... and we lacked consistency.
This season, we have a much smaller arsenal of formations and packages, but we do many things out of the formations. We're successful in this way. The players are comfortable, the play gets in early and we're lined up with about 15-18 seconds left on the clock... this gives us more time to read the defense and we can choose to run the clock down or snap early. We didn't have that freedom the past few years.
If you don't even look at the play, and you only pay attention to the pre-snap, you will notice a huge difference from the offense we saw last season. Thank you, Krags!
This post was edited on 10/12/11 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:20 pm to BooHoo Tbow
quote:Maryland agrees:
Gary Crowton was the problem
quote:
Maryland's offense was rate the 2nd biggest dissapoitment by this writer, noting
"...Danny O'Brien came into the season as one of the most promising young QBs in college football (22-8 TD-INT ratio as a freshman in 2010) but now looks completely lost. O'Brien has a 4-6 TD-INT mark and was benched after going 1-6 last week against Ga. Tech. O'Brien was sharp in last year's West-Coast style offense. In Edsall's new spread under Gary Crowton, the QB has been a mess. The Terps who were 9-4 last season and 29th in scoring and scored over 40 points five times last season, are 91st in scoring.
I sense there is a common denominator here. . .
Maybe O'Brien and Jefferson are related?
This post was edited on 10/12/11 at 4:22 pm
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