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re: Both Sides of the Case Will Be Presented to the Grand Jury

Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

The facts I stated are exactly what was stated in the link:

(1) Jefferson did not start a fight.

(2) Jefferson did not engage in the fight.

(3) Jefferson helped pull LSU players away from the fight.

Its going to trial. The minute JJ opens his mouth to the GJ, the following will be introduced:
quote:

John Jefferson said he was first alerted to the matter this morning when LSU Coach Les Miles' office called because it could not reach Jordan by phone. Jefferson called Jordan, who was sleeping but returned the call 30 minutes later, John Jefferson said.

"He said he didn't know anything about a fight," John Jefferson said. "He told me 'I've been here four years, and I know it ain't worth it. When I see something going down, I leave. I have too much to lose for that.' "

No one has the market on credibility in this situation. It will go to trial
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

"He said he didn't know anything about a fight,"


Completely inadmissible.

Hearsay within hearsay.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:58 pm to
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No one has the market on credibility in this situation. It will go to trial



I highly doubt this.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 1:01 pm to
I have to admit that I am not 100% clear on the procedure followed in a grand jury.

However, I do know that the quote you just posted is at least triple hearsay. That quote won't be admissible at trial.

Moreover, it's a statement by a father about his son. We don't even know if Jefferson made the statement.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Its going to trial. The minute JJ opens his mouth to the GJ, the following will be introduced: quote:John Jefferson said he was first alerted to the matter this morning when LSU Coach Les Miles' office called because it could not reach Jordan by phone. Jefferson called Jordan, who was sleeping but returned the call 30 minutes later, John Jefferson said. "He said he didn't know anything about a fight," John Jefferson said. "He told me 'I've been here four years, and I know it ain't worth it. When I see something going down, I leave. I have too much to lose for that.' " No one has the market on credibility in this situation. It will go to trial
That reeks of hearsay but may be used if John is on the stand, but I wouldn't think against JJ himself.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65538 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Its going to trial. The minute JJ opens his mouth to the GJ, the following will be introduced:

quote:
John Jefferson said he was first alerted to the matter this morning when LSU Coach Les Miles' office called because it could not reach Jordan by phone. Jefferson called Jordan, who was sleeping but returned the call 30 minutes later, John Jefferson said.

"He said he didn't know anything about a fight," John Jefferson said. "He told me 'I've been here four years, and I know it ain't worth it. When I see something going down, I leave. I have too much to lose for that.' "


No one has the market on credibility in this situation. It will go to trial

what he said to his father and what his father said to the media has no bearing on anything. doesn't work that way.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/21/11 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

The facts I stated are exactly what was stated in the link:

(1) Jefferson did not start a fight.

(2) Jefferson did not engage in the fight.

(3) Jefferson helped pull LSU players away from the fight.



Its going to trial. The minute JJ opens his mouth to the GJ, the following will be introduced:

quote:


John Jefferson said he was first alerted to the matter this morning when LSU Coach Les Miles' office called because it could not reach Jordan by phone. Jefferson called Jordan, who was sleeping but returned the call 30 minutes later, John Jefferson said.

"He said he didn't know anything about a fight," John Jefferson said. "He told me 'I've been here four years, and I know it ain't worth it. When I see something going down, I leave. I have too much to lose for that.' "



there isn't a cross examination for grand jury. this isn't being "tried" before a grand jury.
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