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Would you tamu fans go back to the Big12 IF they add two teams AND went to a
Posted on 9/11/11 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 9/11/11 at 11:07 pm
revenue sharing system?
I'm hoping they pull this league back together and make something of it.
Nothing against the Aggies, but I like our league as it is now. Adding tamu would just throw things off.
I'm hoping they pull this league back together and make something of it.
Nothing against the Aggies, but I like our league as it is now. Adding tamu would just throw things off.
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Posted on 9/11/11 at 11:33 pm to Duckie
After 30 June 2012, hope I never have any association with the Big 12 again. Especially bay-LOL-r. 
Posted on 9/11/11 at 11:35 pm to Duckie
No, we are too far gone at this point. Not only would it be a PR disaster, I think we've seen the uglier side of two of our soon-to-be former conference mates these past few weeks (Whorns and Baylor). Also, the two teams that would be added would likely be shitty and not solve all that much stability wise.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 11:36 pm to Duckie
There's no way A&M goes back to the Big XII, A&M will make the SEC stronger, and I'm sure Slive will be able to handle the adjustment.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:30 am to AAM02
Yeah, there's just no way. Supposedly the first shot of conversation on this year's dealings was Loftin telling Slive that A&M made a mistake in not going last year.
At this point, it's not even that we're so far down the road but rather that the few decision makers who held it together last year now realize that staying is simply no longer an option. It's a dead conference being driven by absolute arrogance and incompetence.
At this point, it's not even that we're so far down the road but rather that the few decision makers who held it together last year now realize that staying is simply no longer an option. It's a dead conference being driven by absolute arrogance and incompetence.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:41 am to deadelephant
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revenue sharing system?
If that happened, A&M would make less $ in the Big 12.
A&M was one of the "haves", not one of the "have nots".
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:49 am to AAM02
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A&M will make the SEC stronger
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:55 am to BayouBengals03
never
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:28 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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A&M was one of the "haves", not one of the "have nots".
Doesn't matter. Even though you make less money, you earn more in the future. less money would mean a more stable conference. Making your opponents stronger generates more revenue in the future. This is something UT has failed to see.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:48 am to Duckie
We are done with the Bovine 9. Beebe is a goddamn liar and a Deloss Dodds puppet. Never again.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:56 am to Duckie
There is no way that A&M can remain in the Big 12 longer than legally mandated. This marriage of convenience is dead to all Aggies.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:12 am to SWCBonfire
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Doesn't matter. Even though you make less money, you earn more in the future. less money would mean a more stable conference. Making your opponents stronger generates more revenue in the future. This is something UT has failed to see.
#1 The humiliation of having to stay in the Big 12 because of Baylor having them by the balls would be massive and doing it while taking a pay cut would make College Station look like Jonestown.
#2 "UT has failed to see" - every conference member voted for Big 12 schools to have control of their own 3rd tier tv rights. This was not a unilateral decision by the Horns. Was it a stupid decision for everyone else but Texas, yes, but don't hold Texas responsible for their decisions.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:17 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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but don't hold Texas responsible for their decisions
Drunkystain,
No one believes UT's lies anymore. It started with the LHN and one Tier 3 game and then UT contracting with ESPN for a minimum of two games, and snowballed from there. Your school is led by some financial geniuses with a lack of integrity. And the big boys of the conference (Nebraska, OU, and aTm) no longer trust UT nor do they want to do business with your alma mater any longer.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:21 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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#2 "UT has failed to see" - every conference member voted for Big 12 schools to have control of their own 3rd tier tv rights. This was not a unilateral decision by the Horns. Was it a stupid decision for everyone else but Texas, yes, but don't hold Texas responsible for their decisions.
Oh, it was voted by everyone. However, everyone else knew UT wouldn't agree to any other deal. It was either vote yes, or no UT. Is that fair, yes. Is it what I would do if in UT's position, probably. Was it the smart thing to do money wise, I don't think it was.
But hell, hindsight is 20/20.
I don't think UT is liars. I think they are doing what's in their best interests, and that's how you conduct business; and after all, this is a business. However, I think it would have been more advantageous in the long run to split revenues equally.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:29 am to Smoke Ring
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No one believes UT's lies anymore. It started with the LHN and one Tier 3 game and then UT contracting with ESPN for a minimum of two games, and snowballed from there.
The contract calls for one football game and Texas said it will do what it can to get a 2nd but there is no guarantee. The conference ruled that no conference team can be televised against their wish. DeLoss Dodds said if it would pacify A&M and keep them in the conference, Texas would agree to never put a conference game on LHN....but that wasn't good enough.
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However, I think it would have been more advantageous in the long run to split revenues equally.
What attracted schools like Nebraska, Texas, OU and A&M initially was the un= revenue sharing.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:37 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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What attracted schools like Nebraska, Texas, OU and A&M initially was the un= revenue sharing.
I know. I think most realize that. However, now only two remain. And I think they know the only way to survive is equal share.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:36 pm to Duckie
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I know. I think most realize that. However, now only two remain. And I think they know the only way to survive is equal share.
Texas has hinted it would play ball with = revenue sharing. It wouldn't matter. This isn't about facts any more. What pushed aggie over the edge was talk of high school games on LHN and talk of conference games on LHN. Both have been fixed - no high school games and conference teams have the right to refuse appearing on LHN.
This is an ego stroke for aggie now. Aggie is convinced it is winning SOMETHING by changing conferences. Aggie is convinced it is somehow doing something bad to Texas by going to a much, much harder conference. Aggie will print t-shirts and have celebrations. Since almost no one is alive who can recall their only national title, this is the biggest thing to happen to them in the better part of a century.
Changing conferences never meant more to a single university..... the "why's" (like revenue sharing) stopped being important a long, long time ago.
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 12:42 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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What pushed aggie over the edge was talk of high school games on LHN and talk of conference games on LHN. Both have been fixed - no high school games and conference teams have the right to refuse appearing on LHN.
The problem with UT is that something always needs "fixing." Trust is a big deal in a partnership and UT can't be trusted.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:41 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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Texas has hinted it would play ball with = revenue sharing.
The problem is most schools don't want to stamp the mark of the beast on they're arse to do business with texAS.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:49 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
I am over the blame game. UT has every right to make as much money as they want. We just don't have to sit around and help them.
After the bullshite Baylor pulled, we obviously can't stay connected to those turds. We need to get away from the in-state parasites. This may be our only chance for another 100 years.
After the bullshite Baylor pulled, we obviously can't stay connected to those turds. We need to get away from the in-state parasites. This may be our only chance for another 100 years.
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