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ken starr (baylor) is scum

Posted on 9/8/11 at 7:58 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 7:58 am
he talks of integrity after renigging on his word not to sue, after leaving (his school) smu, houston and tcu to flounder when the big 12 was formed. he's leaving a&m out to dry and they will be forced to fold or fight. i hope his "god" smites him.
Posted by The Jackson 4
Dallas
Member since Feb 2010
489 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:05 am to
They are absolutely crucifying Baylor on the Ticket in Dallas. Simply awesome.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14777 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:05 am to
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renigging
:racist:
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:06 am to
quote:

he talks of integrity after renigging on his word not to sue, after leaving (his school) smu, houston and tcu to flounder when the big 12 was formed. he's leaving a&m out to dry and they will be forced to fold or fight. i hope his "god" smites him


Posted by Bandits
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2008
3170 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:28 am to
aTm talks about tradition and honor all the time. Where is the honor in walking out on a contract that hurts others?
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:33 am to
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he talks of integrity after renigging on his word not to sue


Starr is on the other end of political spectrum from me so it kills me to have to defend him but he never gave his word or Baylor's word that they wouldn't sue. Beebe unilaterally wrote a letter.

quote:

after leaving (his school) smu, houston and tcu to flounder when the big 12 was formed


Starr wasn't involved with that. As for Baylor, they went where they were told after the SWC broke up.

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he's leaving a&m out to dry and they will be forced to fold or fight.


It isn't A&M's decision, it is up to the SEC and they say nothing will happen until every Big 12 conf member signs the waiver. I'll win the Masters before that happens.



Posted by aggiegirl2005
Member since Nov 2010
290 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:37 am to
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aTm talks about tradition and honor all the time. Where is the honor in walking out on a contract that hurts others?


We didn't have a contract with the Big 12 anymore.

"Beebe says the league's 10 teams had no formal contract agreement to stay together after the defections of Nebraska and Colorado last summer to the Big Ten and Pacific 12, respectively."

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2011-08-15-texas-am-move_n.htm

We did agree to stay in the Big 12, as long as the conference held the LHN in check (relegated to Texas's third tier sports only). When the LHN started talking high school sports and conference games - and the conference did nothing to stop it - A&M realized that's not the deal it accepted last summer and left. Er tried to anyways.
Posted by aggiegirl2005
Member since Nov 2010
290 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:42 am to
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As for Baylor, they went where they were told after the SWC broke up


Baylor actively lobbied to keep other schools out and applied political pressure to be included. It didn't merely go where it was told. That's why TCU reportedly doesn't want Baylor in the Big East - still bad blood there.

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/baylor-bears/20100611-Sources-say-TCU-doesn-t-want-7846.ece
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:42 am to
thank you for pointing out my deficiencies in spelling. my wife, a school teacher, does it all the time esp. when she's being a bitch. however, being too lazy to consult a dictionary does not alter my message which attempts to communicate the hypocrisy and scumbaggery of your college president. i hope a&m rips your arse in the courtroom and saves themselves from the necessity of having to travel to the hellhole of waco ever again.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
10849 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:48 am to
[quote]Posted by Message
Bandits
ken starr (baylor) is scum
aTm talks about tradition and honor all the time. Where is the honor in walking out on a contract that hurts others?

You better not have ever had a divorce or need one....why should AM have to for go a better future to keep the hopes of a bunch pansies alive? Are Colorado and Nebraska bad schools too? It boils down to a trend is showing and there is a common factor that resides in Austin.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:49 am to
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When the LHN started talking high school sports and conference games - and the conference did nothing to stop it - A&M realized that's not the deal it accepted last summer and left.


The NCAA said no high school games. The conference leaders got together, including those from A&M, and said that no conference member could go on the LHN UNLESS they agreed to it. In fact, the Texas AD said he would be willing to never put a conference game on the LHN if that is what it took to keep A&M from leaving.

Regarding the 2 issues you brought up for A&M leaving, both were decided 100% in favor of A&M. So, why don't you tell us the real reason A&M is leaving the Big 12.......
Posted by LSUisjustOK
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
3506 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:50 am to
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he talks of integrity after renigging on his word not to sue, after leaving (his school) smu, houston and tcu to flounder when the big 12 was formed.


You know Ken Starr had nothing to do with that right?
Posted by aggiegirl2005
Member since Nov 2010
290 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:53 am to
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The NCAA said no high school games. The conference leaders got together, including those from A&M, and said that no conference member could go on the LHN UNLESS they agreed to it. In fact, the Texas AD said he would be willing to never put a conference game on the LHN if that is what it took to keep A&M from leaving.


He said he'd be willing to never put HIGH SCHOOL games.

"Even before recent Big 12 and NCAA rulings, Dodds said Texas had been willing to alter plans to televise high school games on the new Longhorn Network if it meant keeping peace in the league."

LINK

But even after saying that, the LHN still said it's going forward with highlights, despite the Big 12 ban on "all high school content." As Bob Stoops complained "Oh so you mean they just cut out the boring parts."

As far as conference games, it doesn't matter that the LHN said it'd get the other school's agreement - that's not what we signed up for. We stayed under the premise that there would be only ONE non-conference game. Because when ESPN is your partner, it does things like threaten schools to try and get them to air their game on the LHN by saying ESPN otherwise won't air their games.

https://amarillo.com/blog-post/jon-mark-beilue/2011-08-08/tech-says-no-longhorn-network

It's bad for stability to have schools negotiating with each other like that - did you see what Tech's chancellor said? "I don't want a Tech fan to have to give one dime to the Longhorn Network." You think "negotiations" like that are good for conference stability? That's why A&M was adamant about no conference games - because the schools are not equal bargaining partners when it comes to ESPN. It's not good for the conference even if the schools "agree."

Saying "you got your way" is like a husband saying "Well, I tried to cheat but she turned me down. I didn't cheat in the end, so what's the problem?"

The end is not the only consideration - A&M is tired of the means.
This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 9:00 am
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:58 am to
This is to confirm our discussion yesterday during which I informed you that the Big 12
Conference Board of Directors unanimously authorized
me to convey to you and their colleagues
in the Southeastern Conference that the Big 12 and its members will not take any legal action for
any possible claims against the SEC or its members relating to the departure of Texas A&M
University from the Big 12
and the admission of Texas A&M into the SEC; provided, however,
that such act by the SEC to admit Texas A&M is publicly confirmed by 5:00 p.m. (CDT) on
September 8, 2011.

So, the B12 board of directors is not authorized to speak for the B12? If I'm not mistaken, a representative of each school is on the board.

What part of unilateral don't you understand?
This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 11:09 am
Posted by TheSandman
Waffle House
Member since Nov 2010
19513 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:02 am to
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LSU GrandDad

Just thought I'd let you know, you're talking to an Auburn fan.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Just thought I'd let you know, you're talking to an Auburn fan.




so it's not just my spelling that's gone to hell, huh?
i guess i got fooled when i saw baylor fan below his sig pic. now i see that there is the auburn eagle there. damnit, i hate it when i vent and then discover i was completely mistaken.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:45 am to
I don't know what God Star worships, I do know the one I Worship is secure enough to let A&M do what ever they want to do when comes to playing a football game on Saturday 's in the fall.
Posted by choog
Cypress, TX
Member since Aug 2011
27 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 10:30 am to
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The NCAA said no high school games.


Texas and/or ESPN is still trying to work around this by showing HS Highlights, which IMO is worse than showing the whole game. So this issue is not dead.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 10:32 am to
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If I'm not mistaken, a representative of each school it on the board


The Big 12 Board of Directors consists of the President or Chancellor of each member institution. So not just any old group of representatives, but the Big Cheeses that can make serious commitments binding their institutions.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4673 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 10:37 am to
I just love the Texas fans defending Baylor's fight against the evil moneygrubbers at Texas A&M, while Texas' moneygrubbing is quite possibly the sole reason for the breakup of the Big 12 AND while Texas is busy shopping itself around to the highest bidder.
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