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Explain to me the cons of expansion

Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:37 am
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:37 am
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Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:39 am to
Ole Miss will have someone else that beats them on the reg
Posted by SeattleTiger19
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:40 am to
One is depending on how the schedule is made you could go a long time before seeing certain teams in football. A 16 team conference with 4 non-conference games and keeping the rivalry game would make it years and years before you see certain eastern foes in tiger stadium.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:40 am to
I'm very interested in what are the perceived legitimate cons rather than standard responses like "if it ain't broke don't fix it" from people who are only upset that LSU may not play Florida every year.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:41 am to
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One is depending on how the schedule is made you could go a long time before seeing certain teams in football. A 16 team conference with 4 non-conference games and keeping the rivalry game would make it years and years before you see certain eastern foes in tiger stadium.



Is that really such a big deal?
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:41 am to
quote:

I'm very interested in what are the perceived legitimate cons rather than standard responses like "if it ain't broke don't fix it" from people who are only upset that LSU may not play Florida every year.


? I'm jacked about expansion
Posted by baytiger
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:42 am to
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A 16 team conference with 4 non-conference games and keeping the rivalry game would make it years and years before you see certain eastern foes in tiger stadium.



that's why a 16 team conference pretty much requires 4 divisions
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:42 am to
I wasn't referring to you. I just responded to your post.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:43 am to
It just seems to me from skimming this board that the only reason people don't want to expand is because of a perceived threat to tradition.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:43 am to
1. the threat of a stupid 16 team playoff coming out of super conferences. Id much rather watch 1 and 2 play vs a 4 seed and a 5 seed play.

2. I like good ooc match ups and with how schedules could be redone this is all but gone.

3. How long would it be before we saw sec east teams in tiger stadium.

IMO the cross division rival game needs to be gone regardless of what we do.
Posted by SeattleTiger19
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:43 am to
Well lets just say Bama gets sent to the east. I think many would hate the idea we play them like every or more years. So yeah I would say it is a con.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:44 am to
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1. the threat of a stupid 16 team playoff coming out of super conferences. Id much rather watch 1 and 2 play vs a 4 seed and a 5 seed play.


I don't think you ever have to worry about that.
Posted by baytiger
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:44 am to
quote:

It just seems to me from skimming this board that the only reason people don't want to expand is because of a perceived threat to tradition.


and a well split 4 division 16 team conference with 2 permanent non-division rivals fixes that.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:44 am to
So it's just a break with tradition? Is that it?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:46 am to
n/m

i dont like 2 cross rivals much

This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 11:47 am
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:46 am to
Harder to get to the NC game with more teams from your conference to beat every year. Is it easier to win the Big East or the SEC? Granted the Big East hasn't been very good but take the example of West Virginia in 2007. They blew it but they had a much easier road to the NC game than we did that year. We're going to probably have 16 teams competing for one spot in the NC game each year as opposed to 12 teams competing. I don't see how expansion helps at all from a competitive standpoint. The SEC needs to add no teams to get into the game every year. That would not change even if other conferences expanded and we stay the same size. When you claim the last 5 championships in a row by 4 different teams, no one can argue that expansion is needed to make your league more competitive.

For LSU, Texas A&M can now say to Texas athletes that they can stay home and play in the SEC, the best conference in college football. Before this, being the closest school to Texas helped us in Texas' recruiting.
This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 11:50 am
Posted by baytiger
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:46 am to
quote:


IMO the cross division rival game needs to be gone regardless of what we do.
good thing your opinion won't factor in

there's no way auburn/georgia break up, and almost no way alabama/tennessee break up
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:47 am to
Great idea for football but for basketball it will limit the out of conference opponents and by the time the Tourney comes around 1/2 of the teams won't make the tourney because of losses. Superconferences make smaller conferences big winners in basketball IMO. the only downside I see but then again LSU doesn't have a basketball program so I'll STFU. Only positive from my angle.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:48 am to
well im glad those four mean more than the other 8 teams.

Id rather not have the cross division rival because i like the idea of playing everyone more often.
Posted by baytiger
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:48 am to
how would the 4 team division speed up seeing people though? you play 3 division people each year then how do you break up the rest of the games? 1 from each gives you 6 then how do you get at least 2 other games to give you 8?

4 SE teams
4 SW teams
4 NE teams
4 NW teams

a SW team has a perm rival to the SE and NW
play all their division and one from each other division.. all teams get played in 3 years (2 for adjacent divisions) and home/away every 4-6 years.


eta: AND you stay with 8 game conference schedules for more out-of-conference fun times in Jerryworld
This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 11:50 am
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