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I though FSU said no to the SEC in the 1990's?
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:39 pm
I never really cared to know what happened during expansion talk, as I was about 2-3 years old, but I'm hearing from a lot of FSU fans that they have NEVER received and invitation from the SEC. Now I can imagine this is because FSU did not fully cooperate with what needed to happen to get an invitation, and not the reason that FSU fans are claiming it is.
"Because the SEC is scared of FSU."
So someone with a little knowledge on the subject, shed some light?
"Because the SEC is scared of FSU."
So someone with a little knowledge on the subject, shed some light?
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:40 pm to CNB
I would gladly take them now.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:44 pm to tiger perry
Not the question, but good input.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:45 pm to CNB
lets add clemson 
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:46 pm to CNB
Bowden has said in the past that they prefered the ACC as an easier road to the MNC, I habve no idea if the SEC made a formal offer or not.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:46 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Both FSU and Miami turned down the SEC invite in the '90's. To many tough conference games.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:49 pm to CNB
I'm about to tell you how this will turn out.
FSU fans will say there never was an SEC offer to turn down.
SEC fans will say there was and FSU bitched out.
A select few will add nothing to the discussion other than a few bird's here and there.
Then you will have those thar claim inside knowledge yet have no clue, because the politics behind the whole fiasco was kept private.
FSU fans will say there never was an SEC offer to turn down.
SEC fans will say there was and FSU bitched out.
A select few will add nothing to the discussion other than a few bird's here and there.
Then you will have those thar claim inside knowledge yet have no clue, because the politics behind the whole fiasco was kept private.
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:51 pm to memphisplaya
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the politics behind the whole fiasco was kept private.
Got it.
So it's basically just a huge he-said she-said argument.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:05 pm to vegas-tiger
As I remember, the basketball coach at FSU (who is no longer there) pitched a fit. He wanted to "compete" in the ACC. Well, he lost a lot of games and got fired. The word was that FSU did turn down the SEC. Maybe not formally, but they didn't come when they had the chance.
Notwithstanding, I would love to have both FSU and A & M in the conference.
Notwithstanding, I would love to have both FSU and A & M in the conference.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:31 pm to CNB
Indeed
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:36 pm to memphisplaya
yo don get n official invite to a conferene unless the conference knows you're going to accept. (no one likes to be seen getting turned down). The SEC wanted FSU, but Bowden knew the ACC was easier. The basketball thing was a sham. AS we saw last year with Kansas, bsketball dont mean shite to conference realignments.
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 3:08 pm to secfan123
I'll take input from a person who can type without having a seizure. Thanks though.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 3:18 pm to CNB
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I'll take input from a person who can type without having a seizure. Thanks though.
Well, you apparently dont know shite about this. I was telling you how it happened. frick you too then.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 3:47 pm to CNB
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On May 31, 1990, the SEC presidents voted to authorize expansion, identifying six schools as potential members: Texas, Texas A&M, Florida State, Miami, South Carolina and Arkansas
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Florida State was clearly the SEC’s first choice. The major roadblock was scheduling. On August 3, Bobby Bowden admitted to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “I like to win games, and I can’t think of a tougher place to do that than the SEC.” Under the proposed division alignment, Florida State would face Florida, Auburn and Alabama every year, which raised objections from FSU Athletic Director Bob Goin. “Most conferences have got two really strong programs,” Bowden continued, “but top to bottom there isn’t one close to the SEC.”
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a FSU booster as saying, “There was quite a bit of feeling that we didn’t want to be entrapped; a feeling that among some fans that if we go into [the SEC]…we’d be kind of a stepchild.”
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Things came to a head in September 1990. The ACC had dithered for months on the issue of expansion. On July 26 ACC Commissioner Gene Corrigan said there was “no rush” to expand, yet behind-the-scenes, he was fervently working to lure Florida State away from the SEC. On September 2, Corrigan made his presentation to FSU officials in Tallahassee. Nine days later, the SEC’s Kramer made his final push. The next day, September 12, things nearly blew up in Corrigan’s face when only three of the ACC’s eight athletic directors voted to expand at all. Corrigan needed at least six votes, and while he knew two members (Duke and Maryland) would vote no, three of the North Carolina schools had surprisingly abstained.
While Corrigan lobbied the three abstainers to agree to a second vote later that evening, Kramer quickly arranged a own conference call of SEC members to vote against inviting Florida State. Whether this was a face-saving move or an attempt to spite FSU (in the event the revote went badly) is unclear. But the SEC decided to move on. Corrigan got his revote and won, and on September 13, FSU officially joined the ACC.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:28 pm to Alahunter
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Alahunter
Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:31 pm to BRLawyer
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I would love to have both FSU and A & M in the conference.
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