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Why not Clemson? It's not like USCe has that much SEC pull
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:12 am
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:12 am
just seems so obvious. any insight would be appreciated.
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Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:14 am to Rouge
Clemson would be awesome, but they don't add any new markets and do not have any large following outside of SC. I would trade Clemson for SC though.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:24 am to Rouge
All I can see that Clemson brings is a giant pet rock. I cannot see how they can bring in enough value to the conference to justify their share.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:24 am to Rouge
because they don't bring anything to the table. Its just another team to split money with
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:36 am to Lloyd Christmas
quote:what more does Maryland and Mizzou bring?
because they don't bring anything to the table. Its just another team to split money with
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:52 am to Rouge
quote:They are new markets in the sense that we don't have any team presence there. That brings a lot more people to TVs watching all kinds of SEC games. There are 3 SEC teams within, what, a 100 miles or so of Clemson? These people are already watching a lot of SEC games. For the most part, what you will get is the audience that watches Clemson games only. Are MD and MO worth it? I don't know, but it's clear that they have more potential.
what more does Maryland and Mizzou bring?
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:53 am to Rouge
It wouldn't make a difference.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:54 am to Indiana Tiger
who is really turning on the TV to watch Maryland and Mizzou anyway
not offense, but neither is really known for bringing a strong fanbase
not offense, but neither is really known for bringing a strong fanbase
Posted on 8/29/11 at 10:59 am to Rouge
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who is really turning on the TV to watch Maryland and Mizzou anyway
not offense, but neither is really known for bringing a strong fanbase
Please...you're better than this.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:12 am to Indiana Tiger
quote:everything i hear is that Mizzou does not have much of a fanbase 50+ miles outside of campus
Please...you're better than this.
cant speak too well on Maryland. They seem more like a Kentucky-type school to me
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:35 am to Rouge
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everything i hear is that Mizzou does not have much of a fanbase 50+ miles outside of campus
Yeah. A team located half way between Kansas City and St. Louis couldn't possibly have any fans in those towns. I bet that 11 am SEC game that's probably sindicated there does 100 times better cuz we're the freaking SEC! Man, the force of your argument is just so overwhelming that I just gotta concede.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:39 am to Rouge
i've heard from multiple sources w/ ties to USC and UGA that UGA is more opposed to Clemson than USC. in fact, i've heard they are more opposed to Clemson than GaTech. Clemson is 75 miles from Athens and about 130 miles from Columbia. Clemson recruits Georgia hard and UGa doesn't need another neighbor w/ an SEC flag to recruit against. Also, UGA already has 3 border rivals w/ UF, Auburn & SC, not to mention GTech. they really don't want another.... they would probably oppose FSU for the same reasons. Tallahassee is south Georgia.... And I don't blame them at all.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:42 am to Indiana Tiger
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Yeah. A team located half way between Kansas City and St. Louis couldn't possibly have any fans in those towns. I bet that 11 am SEC game that's probably sindicated there does 100 times better cuz we're the freaking SEC! Man, the force of your argument is just so overwhelming that I just gotta concede.
While Mizzou is better than clemson, they are certainly not the draw you make them out to be. It takes more than large markets, it takes a fan base who gives a shite (see miami's perpetual inability to draw well, even when they were good). Mizzou has a 71,000 seat stadium. Dont you think its a litle strange that a school so close to two major met areas only has a 71,000 seat stadium?
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:51 am to Rouge
I don't see the SEC adding any team to the conference from a state where we already have a footprint.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:09 pm to Aubie83
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I don't see the SEC adding any team to the conference from a state where we already have a footprint.
that's fine. if that's the case, then i dont see the need to expand for expansion's sake. a&m is fine, i guess, but i dont see anything else really interesting
Okie State does a lot more for me than Mizzou or Maryland
Posted on 8/29/11 at 1:01 pm to secfan123
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While Mizzou is better than clemson, they are certainly not the draw you make them out to be. It takes more than large markets, it takes a fan base who gives a shite (see miami's perpetual inability to draw well, even when they were good). Mizzou has a 71,000 seat stadium. Dont you think its a litle strange that a school so close to two major met areas only has a 71,000 seat stadium?
I'm not making them out to be anything. In this thread, I've already stated that I don't know if they are worth it--meaning I don't know if they would generate enough value to justify their share. The issue is whether or not from their current position is if they would add more than Clemson.
To repeat, there is hardly any SEC presence in MO. SC is inundated with SEC presence. Clemson has 3 SEC schools within about 100 miles. Where are you going to get these extra viewers? Saying they have a bigger stadium is not exactly pertinent.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 4:07 pm to Indiana Tiger
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They are new markets in the sense that we don't have any team presence there. That brings a lot more people to TVs watching all kinds of SEC games.
they're not really watching games now. they won't start b/c they're in the SEC. they add nothing
Posted on 8/29/11 at 4:08 pm to Indiana Tiger
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Please...you're better than this.
rouge is 1000% right
Posted on 8/29/11 at 4:09 pm to Indiana Tiger
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A team located half way between Kansas City and St. Louis
2 cities that don't give a flying frick about CGB or Missouri. if they did, Missouri would make more money on its own
Posted on 8/29/11 at 4:12 pm to Indiana Tiger
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Clemson has 3 SEC schools within about 100 miles. Where are you going to get these extra viewers?
well, the clemson fans
i bet clemson fans who actually turn in to watch outnumber missouri fans who turn in to watch (both locally and nationwide)
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