First, most of you have not been involved in a college program, so let me try and clarify for you the level of "disrespect" you keep citing.......minimal.

For the bulk of the players not involved in the fight but missing curfew, it was nothing more than getting a chance to blow off steam after working their asses off. That's it. It has happened on a large scale to every coach at LSU from Charlie to Les. Get over it. Don't blow it out of proportion!

You don't fricking suspend them, you run them and keep the matter in your own house. We called it Breakfast Club and it was fricking awful.

Again, this doesn't apply to those who were fighting, but the remaininge alleged 50 or so who were at the bar.

Keep it in perspective if you've never been on an organized college atheltic prgram.

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Going by this post and your icon, you seem to like/support violence. It might just be that the rest of us aren't like that. There are standards and morality to be upheld.

This post was edited on 8/21/11 at 9:33 am

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Posted by Doc Fenton

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Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:49 am to lsufan112001

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Going by this post and your icon, you seem to like/support violence. It might just be that the rest of us aren't like that. There are standards and morality to be upheld.

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Again, this doesn't apply to those who were fightin

You can't even read the quote you're criticizing?

Come on, man.

If many of the reports we are hearing are true, then some disgustingly terrible actions went down that night at Shady's. Yet here you and a bunch of other people are getting caught up in the curfew aspect of it? Seriously?

It's like spending your day talking about how bad a bank robber is for speeding over the limit during the heist. frick.

For the record, how serious breaking curfew is depends on the context of the situation. When it happens toward the back end of football camp going into school, it's more like a rite of passage than anything else. You don't have to go if you don't want, but there is basically nothing wrong with seniors taking freshmen out if done properly. Again, it depends on a context a bit, but it's not abnormal or disappointing in the least.

The behavior of the team once they were there is the real problem here. And once a bar fight happens, it's not all about this "leadership" thing everybody seems to be talking about. It's about whether the group is generally a good group of people or a bad group. And, yes, some of that responsibility hangs on Les Miles himself.

Once again, it's about context. Merely throwing a punch, or shoving some dudes up against a wall, isn't any big deal, in my opinion. But when you have a very large number of LSU football players at your back, and you go and try to seriously injure another person at a bar, 2 weeks before the season is about to start no less, then I think you've got serious issues as a person.

For every "I would never break curfew" fanatic on the Tiger Rant, it seems like we also have a "what, you've never broken a rule and been involved in ganging up on someone and kicking them in the head?" jackass too. Both groups are espousing disturbing opinions.

Breaking curfew I have done, and I would consider it unusual if I didn't.

Kicking someone in the head I have not done, and it would take some serious shite to go down before I ever would--yes, even when I was "only" 18.

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