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Effect of the current Parking Lot Debacle on the whole season.

Posted on 8/20/11 at 3:56 pm
Posted by NorthTiger
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 3:56 pm
Championships require more than just throwing talent on the field. Many a good football team didn't win on the field because of factors other than a lack of talent. Would it be an understatement to say that the repercussions of the events of this one night have the potential to have a huge impact on the whole season due to the huge distraction this could cause early in the season, not to mention the possible impact of having suspended players sitting on the bench. Point being, losses to Oregon and Missippi State puts the NC and SEC title in serious jeaporday. So far we have players guilty of breaking curfew, fighting and no telling what else. One part of a championship team is the intangible called team unity. I wonder where that stands right now?
Posted by The Truth 34
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 3:57 pm to
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I wonder where that stands right now?



i'd say it's pretty good since they had each other's back in the fight.

UNITY!!!!
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 3:59 pm to
I think people are making a mountain out of a molehill. These kids were stupid in these actions, all parties. However, for every person on here posting about the catastrophe that is a fight at a bar, each poster on this site has likely been involved in the same thing. There aren't the number of fights that there were at the bar, say ten years ago, but it still occurs.

People need a little perspective here, and many, like the OP, are acting like this is the end of the world as we know it. It's not. No kid on this team will be unable to play good football because they got in a fight a few weeks ago. That's ridiculous.
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:01 pm to
I'm not willing to say the whole team's unity in in shambles because of what has been reported so far. But I am willing to say this is an indicator of one person (JJ) and his lack of absolute commitment to the welfare of the team. Social life does not need to include boozing and bar-hopping and brawling into the wee hours of the night, regardless of who caused it or why or who else was in it. When does the so-called maturity of a senior player begin to kick in, in terms of exercising good judgment?
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:02 pm to
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No kid on this team will be unable to play good football because they got in a fight a few weeks ago


exactly

cam newton seemed sooooo distracted last yr with all the pay for play allegations.

Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:03 pm to
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boozing and bar-hopping


you saw him drinking?

you saw him at more than one bar?
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:04 pm to

quote:

I wonder where that stands right now?





i'd say it's pretty good since they had each other's back in the fight.

UNITY!!!!


What about the majority of the team that wasn't involved. Are they all thrilled their teammates brought this kind of attention to the football team. Furthermore, are the players that were involved all puffed up about their actions that night. If given the chance, would they do it all over again?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:04 pm to
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Social life does not need to include boozing and bar-hopping and brawling into the wee hours of the night, regardless of who caused it or why or who else was in it. When does the so-called maturity of a senior player begin to kick in, in terms of exercising good judgment?


How easy people forget how it is to be 20 years old. Every single poster on this board is posting from the maturity of their current age, not from the perspective of when they were 20. And they sound completely naive. We hold football players to a higher standard, but they're still kids and they're still going to make stupid decisions. How could a group of guys coming together to get in a fight be a problem of unity. If anything, it shows unity, including a lack of leadership and maturity.

Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:05 pm to
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If given the chance, would they do it all over again?


This is a stupid statement.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41614 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:05 pm to
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What about the majority of the team that wasn't involved. Are they all thrilled their teammates brought this kind of attention to the football team.


no college kid thinks like this, just some of the ridiculous fan base.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3941 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:06 pm to
Here's a easier question. Do you feel just as good about the season right now as you did three days ago? Another option could be, Do you feel even better about the season?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:06 pm to
unity shown by most of the unity council was nice since some of the players listed were unity council members
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41614 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Do you feel just as good about the season right now as you did three days ago?


as long as we don't have any suspensions for game 1, yes.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Here's a easier question. Do you feel just as good about the season right now as you did three days ago? Another option could be, Do you feel even better about the season?



Are players suspended? If so, how long. If they're not, why would it change my perspective of this teams ability to play football?
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

you saw him drinking?

you saw him at more than one bar?

C'mon, he wasn't there to get coffee and beignets, was he?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

you saw him drinking?

you saw him at more than one bar?


C'mon, he wasn't there to get coffee and beignets, was he?


Charles Scott lived at Bogies and didn't drink.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22898 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:13 pm to
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How easy people forget how it is to be 20 years old.
How easily people excuse inappropriate behavior; if a team is serious about thinking it has a shot at something big, it's "leaders" will reflect that seriousness and their behavior will reflect that seriousness, and they won't be out there brawling.
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:15 pm to
For a moment I thought that you were saying the new parking rules were going to effect the teams chances at winning.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

How easily people excuse inappropriate behavior


Not excusing anything. These kids acted like idiots.

quote:

if a team is serious about thinking it has a shot at something big, it's "leaders" will reflect that seriousness and their behavior will reflect that seriousness, and they won't be out there brawling.



bullshite.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41614 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 4:16 pm to
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C'mon, he wasn't there to get coffee and beignets, was he?


this is the problem.

you're assuming he was drinking. i'm not saying he wasn't, but you can't say for sure that he was unless you saw him.
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