re: So Darron Thomas is in a car...

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So the other 3 guys in the car lives don't matter to you?

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Good point. Part of me maybe does not see this big because I have never been high, so I have no clue how much it effects you. But your right. That is probably one reason Cliffy has been suspended for at least 1 game. Remember CLiffy did get in big trouble with this from his coach. But with the State of Oregon he only got two citations, speeding and driving while Suspended. However, they were very large fines. I personally have just been explaining Oregon law some, defending that. Me personally I do not see speeding as a big deal. Try driving in Cali for instance and you will see the masses easily go way faster. Plus, hardly no one was on the roads then and the cop noted he was not at all driving bad or wreckless. So if it were me, I would not care hardly at all about the speeding. I feel if you speed, then dont cry about having to pay a ticket if caught for it. As for the pot? Ya I care, but there is no proof that Cliffy was high or even smoked it. The cop easily saw cliffy pass all his tests and was not high. So this gets complicated. Me personally, I think driving while suspended is nothing. In my mind that is like a business issue that you never paid a fine off or took care of with the courts. I think Kelly had a problem with his speeding. But I was saying, I personally would not be upset about it, speeding. If one was driving out of control, then ya, but if under control but fast, I personally could care less. If it was true that Cliffy was smoking it as he was driving. That is where I have a problem. Driving Drunk or high on any drugs is very dangerous. And I would go off on him if I were a cop or a coach for that issue. But there is no proof of it. And he was checked out and passed easily. So what do you do? Cliff said just his cousin was smoking it in the back seat. But was their any evidence to suggest any more were? They probably all were, maybe true, but there is zero evidence that was the case.