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re: Are we LSU fans disrespecting Oregon?
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:10 am to Minden tiger
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:10 am to Minden tiger
I am expecting a solid LSU win, and this is not in any way disrespecting Oregon. I think Oregon is deservedly a top 10 team, but I think LSU's offense is going to be better than most expect (largely due to the fact that our OL is filled with veterans that have played together a lot). Oregon on the other hand has a newly constructed OL which hasn't had a lot of playing time together. This I think will severely limit what they can accomplish on offense. As Oregon is unaccustomed to this they will attempt to open it up, which will lead to turnovers. So while Oregon is deservedly a top 10 team, I don't expect them to come out of the gate as one. This is really a good situation for LSU, because after getting their asses handed to them by LSU, Oregon could sweep the PAC-12, making us look really, really good.
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Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:20 am to DocBugbear
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The PAC10 sucks... So it's not disrespect.
Sucks? This is the lie of all lies that just pisses me off. Well, this Sucky Conference as you call it has owned the SEC this last Century Dumb arse when they actually play head to head on a game field. So if the PAC sucks, then that means you are one step lower then Sucking:
Matchup ______________ winner---Result---Spread on game
2000 #3 Bama @ UCLA ___ UCLA, _ 35-24 Bama by 7
2001 #17 UCLA @#25 Bama-UCLA, _20-17 Bama by 2
2002 Auburn @ #19 USC __ USC,__ 24-17 USC _ by 7
2002 MissSt @ #15 Oregon_Oregon, 36-13 Oregonby 13
2003 #13 LSU @ Arizona __ LSU, __ 59-13 LSU _ by 11
2003 #8 USC @ #6 Auburn-USC, __ 23-00 Auburnby 3
2003 Oregon @ Miss St ___ Oregon, 42-34 Oregonby 3
2004 Oregon St @ #4 LSU_ LSU, __ 22-21 LSU __ by 18 (OT)
2005 #5 LSU @ #15 ArizSt- LSU, __ 35-31 Ariz St by 1
2005 Arkansas @ #1 USC _ USC, _ 70-17 USC __ by 30
2006 Arizona @ #8 LSU ___ LSU, __ 45-03 LSU __ by 15
2006 #9 Cal @ #23 Tenn _ Tenn, __ 35-18 Cal __ by 2
2006 #6 USC @ Arkansas _ USC, __ 50-14 USC _ by 7
2006 Wash St @ #4 Auburn-Auburn, 40-14 Auburn by 14
2007 #15 Tenn @ #12 Cal_ Cal, ___ 45-31 Cal __ by 6
2008 #18 Tenn @ UCLA ___ UCLA, _ 27-24 Tenn _ by 7.5 (OT)
2008 #3 Georgia @ ArizSt_ Georgia- 27-10 Georgiaby 7
2009 #11 LSU @ Washing _ LSU, ___ 31-23 LSU __ by 17.5
2009 UCLA @ Tennessee __ UCLA, _ 19-15 Tenn __ by 8
2009 ArizSt @ #21Georgia- Georgia- 20-17 Georgiaby 13
2010 #7 Oregon @ Tenn __ Oregon,- 48-13 Oregon by 10.5
2011 #2 Oregon vs #1 Auburn AU,___22-19 Auburn by 1.5
From the Modern Football Era(the BCS)the PAC has won 12 vs 10 SEC.
The SEC was favored to win 12 of those games but only won 10.
Also one can see the PAC is 14-7-1 against the spread vs the SEC.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:26 am to DocBugbear
In truth the Conferences are as follows, from any guy that really watches them all a lot:
1)SEC(but only by a very slim margin over #2)
2)PAC-12
3)Big Ten(+ 2)(because they cannot count)
4)Big 12(- 2) (because they cannot count)
5)MWC
6)WAC(has always been this way for a while but soon will drop below Conference USA with their best teams leaving
7)ACC(might make a resurgence, time will tell)
8)Big Least
9)Conference USA
10)The rest...
1)SEC(but only by a very slim margin over #2)
2)PAC-12
3)Big Ten(+ 2)(because they cannot count)
4)Big 12(- 2) (because they cannot count)
5)MWC
6)WAC(has always been this way for a while but soon will drop below Conference USA with their best teams leaving
7)ACC(might make a resurgence, time will tell)
8)Big Least
9)Conference USA
10)The rest...
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:28 am to DocBugbear
Another way to put this is that it takes a number of games for teams to get up to speed. The defenses usually get going pretty quickly, but the offenses can vary. LSU doesn't have too much to replace on offense and the OL is mostly in tact. They will be ahead of the curve. Oregon had too much changeover on the OL so they will be out of sync and behind that curve. And this will only be exacerbated by their hurry-up.
So, if they met week 4, I be calling LSU by 3 and I'd be nervous. In week 1, I'm not worried and I expect LSU to win by close to 20 (I'll say 17).
So, if they met week 4, I be calling LSU by 3 and I'd be nervous. In week 1, I'm not worried and I expect LSU to win by close to 20 (I'll say 17).
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:31 am to DocBugbear
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Oregon on the other hand has a newly constructed OL which hasn't had a lot of playing time together. This I think will severely limit what they can accomplish on offense. As Oregon is unaccustomed to this they will attempt to open it up, which will lead to turnovers.
I wouldn't call the line newly constructed. Weems started 7 including the Tennessee, Stanford and Auburn games. York and Asper have started for the past two seasons. It's certainly up for debate how limited they will be.
Oregon's playbook is actually very simple but executed well. Darron threw very few ints and will have experience in big games...cool cucumber. I don't see many turnovers.
Back to the oline, I think Clanton may be our best overall talent. The two new peices will give us a lift athletically and strength wise.
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 1:33 am
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