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re: As the season draws closer and closer, Oregon fans get crazier and crazier

Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
1872 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:50 pm to
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What you do not realize, oh Webhopper, is that, in the last 10 years, SEC teams have played (REGULAR season):Hawaii, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, UCLA, USC, Fresno St, Arizona State, Arizona, Colorado, Boise State, Texas, Texas A&M, Houston, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Northwestern, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State, Miami(F), Miami(O), South Florida, Central Florida, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Wake Forest, and Southern Miss. LSU has played TWELVE games against the above just by itself since 2000, five on the road (incl UO and WVA this year), and including home and homes with: Arizona, Va.Tech, Washington, and West Va. Just sayin.' So I ask, WTF are you talking about ????????


Why does every time a SEC fan gets questioned by all the cupcakes they play the first thing they do is list some major schools they had played? Of course the SEC plays SOME major schools. The problem however is twofold: Its the other 3(or more) cupcakes that you also play each year(on average). AND the number of BIG boys you play each year does not come close to the number the PAC 10 plays. You listed many, and great job doing that research. But now list all the cupcakes(or rather the whole full schedule the whole SEC has played since the BCS(1998)till now too, cupcakes and all.)

You will easily see the SEC plays the most cupcakes. And you will easily see, if you looked at the full PAC 10 schedule in the same time frame, The PAC plays the HARDEST schedule. You showed me quite a few big schools, but look at the PAC's, there are way more, and way LESS cupcakes.

Hey, I don't blame the SEC. It is what has got them in the BCS games more, from padding their schedule with Cupcake buy wins. But don't expect people to not call the SEC out on it.

The PAC has only played a grand total of 38 D-2 schools. That is the single lowest total of ANY SINGLE CONFERENCE IN AMERICA. So playing D-2 schools is not the PAC's rep. However the SEC has played 85 D-2 schools. lol And as far as non BCS schools, (little sisters of the poor) the PAC has played only 225 of them. The SEC has played 317, WHICH IS THE MOST IN CF OF ANY CONFERENCE!

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So I ask, WTF are you talking about ????????

WTF I am talking about is the facts and truth.
The facts burn and the truth hurts... Click link.
Conference to Conference Data from BCS era up to 2009

Heck, I just checked also on ESPN the schedules that go back to 2002, for USC and UCLA. Did you know USC "on average" played 3 BCS schools each year. Yes sometimes they played 2, but even with the non BCS schools they were on average very hard. And guess what? Not one single D-2 school, unlike the SEC. And for UCLA, very good too, though not as quite. They scheduled on average 2 BCS schools each year and the rest played on average a good quality none BCS team(on average), and like USC - NOT ONE SINGLE D-2 school. The SEC majors in D-2 schools. And when you start to go through every PAC team and then go through every SEC team, the comparisons are NIGHT AND DAY. To suggest otherwise means A) You can not read B) You are a moron C) You like to lie.

Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:55 pm to
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Hey, I don't blame the SEC. It is what has got them in the BCS games more, from padding their schedule with Cupcake buy wins.


Guess having to play in the other SEC teams don't count. To go through the SEC an come out takes a lot and when you put the best SEC team up against the rest of the nation...they don't lose.

I'm eating lunch, but I'll edit in a few fun facts when I'm done.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7967 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:06 pm to
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You will easily see the SEC plays the most cupcakes. And you will easily see, if you looked at the full PAC 10 schedule in the same time frame, The PAC plays the HARDEST schedule.


This would be true if it weren't for all those PAC-12 teams on the schedule...
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15609 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:09 pm to
DucksflyinPAC,

I certainly did not mean to draw your ire regarding this subject, but may I suggest something that you may not have considered?

Yes, the SEC has played more creamfpuffs than the PAC 10 in the BCS era. That simply is because the SEC has to play MORE OOC games, since we only play 8 conference games. The Pac 10, of course, plays 9 conference games.

The 12 SEC teams must schedule 1 additional OOC game than the 10 Pac 10 teams. When added cumulatively, that's 24 additional OOC games per season.
SEC and PAC 10 ADs (as well as other conferences AD's) have always been in negotiations to schedule future games, but it is very difficult to mesh schedules and dates together when we have so many more OOC games to play.
Also, some SEC teams are contractually obligated to play at least one in-state rival.

And why does everybody think that SEC teams """"""WANT"""""" to schedule Div 2 teams ???
Most of the time it is because an original OOC opponent reneges on their commitment.

Ex: In 2003, Va.Tech was supposed to come to Baton Rouge after LSU played them in Blacksburg in 2002.
Va.Tech got out of their commitment, and LSU was stuck with NO ONE at the last minute. The only team that was available on THAT PARTICULAR WEEKEND on such short notice was Western Illinois.

The SEC is not "padding" their schedules with cupcakes. As aforementioned, when we must play ats least 24 additional OOC games than everybody else, and contractual dates are very difficult to come to fruition because of previous scheduling, we are lucky to get the teams we do.

Secondly, when an already scheduled team bails out and there is no one available, it is very difficult to find replacements on short notice.


Sorry, if I had left the WTF reference off, I could have been more impartial in my repsonse. I did not, however, call you illiterate, a liar, or a moron.

Good luck Sept. 3.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:20 pm to
Only way to really look is how we both play the same teams.

2003: Arizona
LSU 59-13
UO 48-10

2003: Mississippi State
LSU 41-6
UO 42-34

2004: Oregon State
LSU 22-21
UO 21-50

2005: Arizona State
LSU 35-31
UO 31-17

2006: Fresno State
LSU 38-6
UO 31-24

2006: Arizona
LSU 45-3
UO 10-37

5/6 LSU did better against the same team. The defense Oregon fans claims is going to stop us from passing has all but once allowed more ppg then the LSU defense of the same time frame.



Granted these don't mean much because there have been numerous coaching changes on both teams. However, saying that the SEC plays cupcakes and that's a reason that we get into the BCS games is not telling the whole truth. We fight in the toughest conference, and when we go against common opponents we tend to have a little better record.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 3:27 pm
Posted by WreckinRams05
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2005
6201 posts
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:28 pm to
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DucksflyinPAC


nice research but your still missing the point of playing the SEC teams week in and out. The SEC doesn't get higher BCS rating because of cupcake victories. They get higher ratings because pretty much everybody in the sec is solid except for vandy. ole miss has been pretty bad as well.

This is why the PAC-12 has to have great OOC scheduling. it is the only way of surpassing a SEC team in the BCS ratings if they both have the same record
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
4962 posts
Posted on 6/3/11 at 10:32 am to
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You will easily see the SEC plays the most cupcakes. And you will easily see, if you looked at the full PAC 10 schedule in the same time frame, The PAC plays the HARDEST schedule. You showed me quite a few big schools, but look at the PAC's, there are way more, and way LESS cupcakes.
If you're talking about OOC games, then yes, I agree with you.

However, you fail to realize that the PAC 10 is a cupcake factory--most of your cupcake opponents come from within.
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