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re: Bayou chene barge
Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:27 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:27 pm to tgrbaitn08
The sheet piles were locked and welded when I went out there yesterday afternoon. The pile had just fallen forward when we were riding out there
Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:35 pm to NaBreauxleon
Yeah, but is that it? THAT is the plan? You know people actually believe this is gonna be effective, and are making critical decisions based on THAT? A single layer of sheet pile in the middle of "the deepest part of the channel" (according to someone else on this thread). This should be on the news, or something, if that pic is really of "the plan".
Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:36 pm to JulianD
They have the barge sunk into place, they have three spud barges behind the intermac 600 they sheet piled into the banks, and have 17000 tons of rip rap for added support for the sheet pile and hopefully some good north wind and God
Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:08 pm to NaBreauxleon
Not to make light of the situation, but based on that picture...
I am starting a drive, anybody got a few sheets of tin, or some corrugated aluminum they would like to contribute?? Please drop of your donations at Lake End park between Stephensville and Morgan City.
Ok, that was probably in poor taste, but it needed to be said!
I am starting a drive, anybody got a few sheets of tin, or some corrugated aluminum they would like to contribute?? Please drop of your donations at Lake End park between Stephensville and Morgan City.
Ok, that was probably in poor taste, but it needed to be said!
Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:38 pm to JulianD
No, it didn't need to be said. And you're foolish to think that it's just pieced together. You're just spouting off because it didn't perform in 73 and you think they haven't made any changes. And you're sounding like a jack arse.
Considering there's about a 2' difference in water elevation between upriver and downriver, I'd say it's working somewhat.
But hey, you're a message board poster... You're obviously more qualified than the folks calling the shots. My bad.
Considering there's about a 2' difference in water elevation between upriver and downriver, I'd say it's working somewhat.
But hey, you're a message board poster... You're obviously more qualified than the folks calling the shots. My bad.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 7:34 am to JulianD
They have reading from lock stations behind the barge that are lower than they were before it was in place. The river is rising and the backwater is dropping, the barge is doing the job.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 7:36 am to JulianD
And in 1973 it did what it was put in place to do, stop some of the river water from getting into the inland waters of St. Mary and lower St. Martin parish. They have pictures of one side of the barge having brown murky water and the other side having clear black water.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 7:47 am to NaBreauxleon
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And in 1973 it did what it was put in place to do, stop some of the river water from getting into the inland waters of St. Mary and lower St. Martin parish. They have pictures of one side of the barge having brown murky water and the other side having clear black water.
.the project DID NOT work in '73...havent you seen all those pictures of Morgan City and Stevenville from 1973.....both cities flooded...the barge didnt work. Matter of fact they put the barge in place after the water came up. This is a different flood than in 73, 73 was more of a flash flood type of flood versus this slow river rise
Look closely at the pics I posted above from 73...Notice in the color photo
that the water to the left is the water that the barge was meant to hold back. It is higher than that on the right.
This post was edited on 5/20/11 at 8:03 am
Posted on 5/20/11 at 8:07 am to tgrbaitn08
Problem is going to be no earth levee to tie into. Once the water gets high enough it will just go through the woods and around the barge. Most of this area is cypress swamp and normally pretty wet so this may slow the water but it will definitely not stop it IMO.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 8:28 am to Coon
I maybe a jackass, but you really gotta lighten up. Pull the sheet pile out a little, it's clearly uncomfortable.
Look, if you think this is gonna work and I don't, let's just wait an see. So far it 1-1, some of it's busted, but while it was up it lowered water levels.
Hey, I'm not an engineer, so no earth levee behind it might work. That being said, I am familiar with the area, and the post about swamp is right, and therre is pretty high water in the woods already. The whole area is marsh.
Lighten up dude, and hope the winds change.
Look, if you think this is gonna work and I don't, let's just wait an see. So far it 1-1, some of it's busted, but while it was up it lowered water levels.
Hey, I'm not an engineer, so no earth levee behind it might work. That being said, I am familiar with the area, and the post about swamp is right, and therre is pretty high water in the woods already. The whole area is marsh.
Lighten up dude, and hope the winds change.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 9:01 am to JulianD
quote:
JulianD
quote:
I maybe a jackass
At the least you are a jackass.
quote:No shite.
I'm not an engineer,
My younger brother almost died on this job Tues morning, have some respect for the people actually doing something unlike others that are just big mouth know-it-alls spouting horse shite on the internet.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 9:03 am to JulianD
JulianD, there are a lot of good people working on this project & for you to sit behind a keyboard and spout off claims of "unethical" or "failure" is reprehensible. These guys have put their lives on hold to try and protect property of friends, family and people they don't even know. The Engineers Code of Ethics states that an engineer shall "safeguard life, health, and property and to promote the public welfare" and what these guys are doing falls well within that statement, especially given the time frame and conditions under which they are working. If you have any better ideas, let's hear them.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 9:11 am to bayoudude
I think that is the whole point of the project in the first place
Posted on 5/20/11 at 9:27 am to Shankopotomus
Dam, well looks like we got a few raw nerves around here. Entirely understandable given the situation. I said it was unethical to hinge peoples hopes on this (see the picture, really) NOT to build the thing. And failure was stright from the press release. Misplaced hope is dangerous, and most people I know would be quite shocked to see that. I was. Especially in comparison to the 73 project. Simmer down, folks. I didn't send the water, and I'm not running around telling people I can stop it. It's a SWAG project, Scientific Wild Arse Guess.
This post was edited on 5/20/11 at 9:28 am
Posted on 5/20/11 at 9:29 am to JulianD
Local authorities have to at least try something to save face. Even if it has a low probability of working.
Posted on 5/20/11 at 9:33 am to R Miller
quote:
JulianD, there are a lot of good people working on this project & for you to sit behind a keyboard and spout off claims of "unethical" or "failure" is reprehensible. These guys have put their lives on hold to try and protect property of friends, family and people they don't even know. The Engineers Code of Ethics states that an engineer shall "safeguard life, health, and property and to promote the public welfare" and what these guys are doing falls well within that statement, especially given the time frame and conditions under which they are working. If you have any better ideas, let's hear them.
great first post, welcome to the boards!
Posted on 5/20/11 at 9:59 am to LSURoss
This post was edited on 5/20/11 at 10:00 am
Posted on 5/20/11 at 11:37 am to tgrbaitn08
The people are getting pissed!!
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This post was edited on 5/20/11 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/20/11 at 4:42 pm to JulianD
quote:You can drill down to the details of this operation by watching the YouTube video (parts 3 and 4) of the Morgan City town meeting on May 13.
But other than the barge all they got is sheet pile and rip rap,right?
Bill Hidalgo, President of the St. Mary Levee District, lays out the details of the Bayou Chene barge plan.
Part 4 begins right in the middle of the explanation so you need to first watch the part 3 video starting at 5:54.
Morgan City Public Info Meeting on 2011 Flood Fight & Potential Impact of Morganza Opening
Part 3
Part 4
Those videos are 13+ minutes in duration.
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