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re: Does anyone actually think Patterson would leave TCU?

Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by yundiesel
westbank
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:13 pm to
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Does anyone actually think Patterson would leave TCU?


not me
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:14 pm to
He is not leaving as TCU is a private school with large endowments. They can pay him what they want and how they want. Additionally, TCU will finish in the top two or three of the big east for a long time.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:15 pm to
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Aside from the top 5 preseason comment (they're losing a ton of sr's, so they'll fall in the 2011 polls), I agree wholeheartedly. He's paid well, and he's incredibly loyal to the school - he views that program as the child that he reared, and I don't see him leaving at the precise moment that the child peaks. Also, putting the prestige of coaching LSU aside, he knows he has a much higher prability maintaining success and making it to the NC game in the Big East. He'll be recruiting and ultimately coaching Texas talent, playing against east coast talent. No-brainer.


Winning or competing in the Big East each year will never be enough for a coach at some point. They'll want another challenge. Just look at the coaches that have left the Big East.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:19 pm to
No. He has had his team flirting with the national title while on the outside looking in, now he's in the Big East.

This is huge, whether we want to acknowledge it or not: the Big East gets an automatic qualifier, just like the SEC etc. So no more dancing around with Boise to get an at-large bid; his challenge is to win the Big East and his team gets into a BCS bowl, and if he goes undefeated he will likely get a shot at the title. Had Wisconsin blasted TCU, he might leave, thinking the program wasn't good enough to win it all. But they beat Wisky, and I think that gives him the confidence that they can win a single bowl game against anyone for all the marbles.

Ask yourself these questions- who is more likely to go undefeated: TCU in the Big East, or LSU in the SEC? Would you rather live in Dallas-Ft Worth, or Baton Rouge?
Posted by DallasTigerFan
Member since Nov 2007
88 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:20 pm to
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He's about to log more travel miles than just about any other team in the country when they move to the Big East. I'd leave yesterday with their pending travel schedule


I'm guessing you're unaware of the fact that they currently play in the Mountain West - traveling to Wyoming, Nevada, Colorado, and Utah. None of their conf opponents are in closer states. Travel is not a concern of Patersons.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:22 pm to
If I kept having season like him and not getting to the big game id be gone with a quickness.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:23 pm to
It's TCU; Any coach worth a shite wants to compete vs the best or at the highest level. How many coaches stay at the same school their entire career?? Again, it's tcu. They'll never have the potential of an LSU
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:24 pm to
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No. He has had his team flirting with the national title while on the outside looking in, now he's in the Big East.

This is huge, whether we want to acknowledge it or not: the Big East gets an automatic qualifier, just like the SEC etc. So no more dancing around with Boise to get an at-large bid; his challenge is to win the Big East and his team gets into a BCS bowl, and if he goes undefeated he will likely get a shot at the title. Had Wisconsin blasted TCU, he might leave, thinking the program wasn't good enough to win it all. But they beat Wisky, and I think that gives him the confidence that they can win a single bowl game against anyone for all the marbles.

Ask yourself these questions- who is more likely to go undefeated: TCU in the Big East, or LSU in the SEC? Would you rather live in Dallas-Ft Worth, or Baton Rouge?




And we can pay more. We can offer the challenge of the SEC, which coaches want at this level. No competition with being a directional school with four other schools in better conferences in your own state. Small stadium in a pro sports town. And that's not to mention the fact that other schools outside the state can all recruit within better.

He has made TCU what it is, but TCU without him isn't a great job and being in the Big East is not what coaches are searching for. Just look at the track record.
Posted by DallasTigerFan
Member since Nov 2007
88 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:26 pm to
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Winning or competing in the Big East each year will never be enough for a coach at some point. They'll want another challenge. Just look at the coaches that have left the Big East.


Two things: (1) how many of those coaches could recruit in TX, and how many made a legitimate run at a NC. Paterson knows he'll do both. (2) Your statement would be somewhat valid if Paterson were in the Big East NOW...he's not. He won't be until 2012. So if he goes to the Big East and wins, and IF the Tigers are looking for a new coach in say 5 or 6 years, then your post will make sense at that time. Until then....
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:27 pm to
I guess it all depends on his abitions.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:27 pm to
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Two things: (1) how many of those coaches could recruit in TX, and how many made a legitimate run at a NC. Paterson knows he'll do both. (2) Your statement would be somewhat valid if Paterson were in the Big East NOW...he's not. He won't be until 2012. So if he goes to the Big East and wins, and IF the Tigers are looking for a new coach in say 5 or 6 years, then your post will make sense at that time. Until then....


Spell his name correctly once and I'll give you an ounce of credibility.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:28 pm to
He's getting leftovers in TX even if he does get to recruit there
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64442 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:30 pm to
he's not going anywhere

quote:

Aside from the top 5 preseason comment (they're losing a ton of sr's, so they'll fall in the 2011 polls), I agree wholeheartedly. He's paid well, and he's incredibly loyal to the school - he views that program as the child that he reared, and I don't see him leaving at the precise moment that the child peaks. Also, putting the prestige of coaching LSU aside, he knows he has a much higher prability maintaining success and making it to the NC game in the Big East. He'll be recruiting and ultimately coaching Texas talent, playing against east coast talent. No-brainer.


EXCELLENT POST
This post was edited on 1/9/11 at 3:34 pm
Posted by DallasTigerFan
Member since Nov 2007
88 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:35 pm to
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Spell his name correctly once and I'll give you an ounce of credibility.


Patterson.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:37 pm to
He'll leave eventually when the right opp presents itself. This bs ab loyalty is overrated when it comes down to that or coaching at the highest level
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20502 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:38 pm to
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And we can pay more. We can offer the challenge of the SEC, which coaches want at this level. No competition with being a directional school with four other schools in better conferences in your own state. Small stadium in a pro sports town. And that's not to mention the fact that other schools outside the state can all recruit within better.

He has made TCU what it is, but TCU without him isn't a great job and being in the Big East is not what coaches are searching for. Just look at the track record.


Take the regional (SEC) glasses off- what coaches want is a shot at the national title, not to play in _______ conference. I think it likely that TCU can go undefeated in the Big East, while it's more likely that the SEC and other conferences will revert to having a 1-loss champ over the next few years. That means playing in the BCS title game probably within 4 yrs.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:38 pm to
I'm not sure we get him but we should try. And people are naive if they think his goal is to stay at TCU forever.
Posted by DallasTigerFan
Member since Nov 2007
88 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:56 pm to
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He's getting leftovers in TX even if he does get to recruit there


Note my use of FUTURE tense. He won't be pulling leftovers when the move to a BCS conf. Again, a fact that Patterson knows.
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