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Cabbage Rolls

Posted on 12/30/10 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/30/10 at 2:58 pm
Anybody ever made these before and/or have a good recipe? I might make these for New Year's Day. I haven't had any since Octoberfest in 2004 at Deutsches Haus, and I've got an envee!
Posted by L Boogie
Texas
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:00 pm to
I have a good recipe for LOOSE cabbage rolls...exactly the same thing except less of a pain in the arse. :) You want it?
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21327 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:01 pm to
Sure. How much of a "pain in the arse" are the rolls to make?
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
22243 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:03 pm to
make you a pot of rice dressing. bowl cabbage. roll the rice dressing inside the cabbage leaf. top with season tomato sauce/paste.

Posted by Eddie Vedder
The South Plains
Member since Jan 2006
4438 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:05 pm to
for our new years day meal about 4 years ago, I used Tyler Florence's recipe for stuffed cabbage rolls.

they were a lot of work but delicious. i've been too lazy to make them again...
Posted by L Boogie
Texas
Member since Jul 2009
5212 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:08 pm to
Ok, that's fair...I guess it's not that hard to roll them up. But they always seem to fall apart anyway so you might as well make them loose. I actually use shredded cabbage, but you can just cut up a head if you'd rather.

Loose Cabbage Rolls

1 1/2 lbs ground beef
1 large onion, chopped
1/2 green bellpepper, chopped
2 ribs celery
1 head cabbage, chopped or sliced (or 2 bags shredded)
2 cans V-8 (I prefer the spicy but you can use regular too)
1/2 cup rice
salt, black pepper & red pepper to taste

In a large skillet, saute' meat with onion, bellpepper and celery. Cook until meat is browned and vegetables are soft.
Season with salt, black and red pepper, to taste. Add raw rice and mix well.
In large casserole or baking dish, layer cabbage, then spoon meat mixture over the cabbage.
Pour juice over the top. Cover with foil and bake in 350-degree oven for 1 1/2 hours.
**That is the given baking time; however, I usually only bake mine for 45 mins-1 hour and it's perfect. Just keep an eye on it around the hour mark. :)
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:12 pm to
Okay, first attempt got fricked. The largest fresh head with as many loose leaves, take them off and reserve them. Mix of about a 1.5 lbs ground beef browned, trinity plus garlic, and about 1/3 of remaining cabbage, and two cups of rice cooked. Take reserved leaves and wilt in hot water, then stuff them with meat mix. Place in casserol dish, top with a light tomato sauce and heat for 30 at 350.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21327 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:12 pm to
Wow, thanks guys! The recipe with sweet and sour tomato sauce sounds interesting.

The ones I've had in the past had a very light tomato sauce. I might add a little cooking white wine to thin it out a bit.

I'll let you know how it comes out.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 3:36 pm to
Really depends upon one's preference of beef, lamb, small portion of pork in some, and/or combination there of. But, if you've never made them before, a video tutorial may be what's needed..

DeDe's Med Kitchen - Cabbage Rolls

Here's a good trusted BR Ladies of The Cedar Club one..

3 medium sized cabbages
1 lb ground chuck
1/4th lb ground pork
3/4 cup raw rice
1 large can whole tomatoes
1/4 lb pork fat
accent, salt and pepper
3 garlic pods
mint
3 tablespoons fresh lemon juice

Parboil cabbages. remove core, separate leaves.

Mix well together ground chuck, ground pork, raw rice, 3 cans tomatoes, and pork fat. add accent. Sprinkle generously with salt and pepper. Put a bout a level teaspoon of mixture in each cabbage leaf roll, and place in pot. Cook at medium for 30 minutes. Then add, crushed garlic, mint, salt, and lemon juice. Pour remaining whole tomatoes over rolled cabbages and cook over low heat approximately 30-40 minutes.

This post was edited on 12/30/10 at 3:47 pm
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
13494 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:35 pm to
LINK

This is a good basic one that you can dress up easily. Don't get too cute with the sauce.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21327 posts
Posted on 12/30/10 at 4:50 pm to
Thanks poonponsaban!








(ps. What's up with that name? a tampon named saban?)
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5369 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

(ps. What's up with that name? a tampon named saban?


Poop on Saban!

I went through about 10 cookbooks, 5 YouTube videos, and this thread and here is how I did my "Stuffed Cabbage Rolls" tonight.

First let me say...it's a lot of work. Mainly boiling the head and taking off the leaves...not hard, just a pain in the butt.

I mixed 2 lbs of ground beef with an onion and two cups of rice. Seasoned it with Tony's, Worcestershire, and Hot sauce. I molded this into 2 inch long by 1 inch wide meat balls. And I seasoned them with kosher salt and fresh cracked black pepper. (I figured with the rice I need to add a little more seasoning than usual).

I sautéed an onion in 2 tbsp of bacon greese. Mixed two cans of chopped tomatoes with 29 oz Tomato sauce in a big mixing bowl mashing up the tomatoes.

I added half of the sauce to the onions and lined the bottom of my magnalite pot with left over leaves of the cabbage...I rolled the leaves with the meat balls and added the cabbage roll to the pot. It made a total of 26 cabbage rolls stacked two high. I added more leaves on top of the rolls and added enough water to cover.

Right now they are going to simmer for 2 hours...I will check on them after this post to make sure there is enough water.

I will let you know how it comes out and try to provide pictures.

PS-I plan on adding Ketchup to my sauce...it adds a nice touch to the final product.

This post was edited on 12/31/10 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Tee Hee Tummytums
Wild, Wonderful West Virginia
Member since Dec 2010
504 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:38 pm to
Cabbage rolls are one of my favorite foods... used to have an old Polish who made them for me. She used a little cinnamon/nutmeg for an extra twist.
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 9:45 am
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

PS-I plan on adding Ketchup to my sauce


Ketchup has vinegar, and HFCS depending upon whether the cheap variety or organic. Breaks down in the heat, runny. Concentrated tomato paste are usually just dried salt and tomato..provides that slightly pasty layer that lays on top of the rolls just right. Tastes better too.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:38 pm to
two hours is going to be way too long. The outer leaves will have the texture of Gerber baby food.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

She used a little cinnamon/nutmeg for an extra twist.


Some Mid-Eastern recipes have a 1 teaspoon of allspice, and/or pinch cinn/nutmeg.

Gotta be very careful if going that route, it can overpower the taste in a hurry.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

two hours is going to be way too long.


Yep, all good recipes call for 30-40 minutes, tops.

30 Minutes..is correct.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5369 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

two hours is going to be way too long. The outer leaves will have the texture of Gerber baby food.


Thanks...I just checked them and they were smelling good...and I rechecked my 2 recipes and they said 1H 30M to 1H 45M...so I will check them at 1 1/2 hours.

So my original post should have said 1.5 hours...thanks for the heads-up.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5369 posts
Posted on 12/31/10 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Concentrated tomato paste are usually just dried salt and tomato..provides that slightly pasty layer that lays on top of the rolls just right. Tastes better too.


Don't think I have any tonight...but I will look for it.

Thanks for the tip...If I don't try it this time I will try it the next time.


This post was edited on 12/31/10 at 8:57 pm
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