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gary crowton fans why should he stay?

Posted on 12/6/10 at 4:55 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 4:55 pm
anyone of them care to tell me why he should stay when a triple option qb has more passing td's than both our quarterbacks combined?

nesbitt stats

7 tds from a guy that played in less games compared to our 6 from jj and lee. if we throw in ware we tie up nesbitts numbers. yep gary should get another year
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

gary crowton fans


These exist?
Posted by GratefulTiger
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 4:57 pm to
crowton never throws the deep ball unless it's a must. he avoids play actions/tricky motions. his weak side options and silly wr screen passes don't cut it in the SEC. Pretty much everytime LSU lines up in formation, i know exactly what play they're going to run
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 4:58 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 4:58 pm to
yes they do. uncommon cents is supporting jj and i have seen others.

no matter how they slice this id like to know how having a triple option qb out sling our qbs is ok.
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:00 pm to
I'm not a Crowton fan, although perhaps not as negative about him as some, but the one reason I would give for keeping him has already been shot down by Crowton himself.

It always seems to take a team at least a year to acclimate to a new OC and I would hate to waste next year when the schedule sets up pretty nicely for us. BUT! In 2007 GC was our brand new OC and we struggled a lot with lining up and learning the formations, but we still managed a pretty good offensive performance and won the NC, so from that standpoint I guess I really can't give a concrete reason to keep him given the last two years performance.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:02 pm to
keeping a guy that finishes near the bottom of offense in the sec 2 years in a row just because we dont want to learn a new o isn't a good enough reason to keep him.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:12 pm to
BT = crowton cheerleader
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:14 pm to
they dont seem to want to touch this stat.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:16 pm to
That's because BT hates JJ and it couldn't be Crowtons fault for such shitty playcalling.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:17 pm to
id just like to see a crowton defender defend this stat.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

gary crowton fans


These exist?



You beat me to it!
Posted by GratefulTiger
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:20 pm to
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That's because BT hates JJ and it couldn't be Crowtons fault for such shitty playcalling.


he seems to be like every other ignorant fan. mauk, flynn would of had terrible numbers in crowtons system as well. i can see his offense scheme working, but not in a conference where the LBs run 4.6s and the defensive ends are faster than your QB. put JJ even in Fisher's scheme and people would compare him to campbell from au
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 5:23 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:21 pm to
First, let's hear from these Lou Tepper fans.
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

crowton never throws the deep ball unless it's a must. he avoids play actions/tricky motions. his weak side options and silly wr screen passes don't cut it in the SEC. Pretty much everytime LSU lines up in formation, i know exactly what play they're going to run


Now posts like this is where I sometimes catch myself in a position of defending Crowton. You're wrong on so many levels.

I understand that not everyone is going to be a junky like me and break down every game film 5 or 6 times, but you shouldn't make such an inaccurate post. I mean flame Crowton if you want, but don't try to make a critical strategic analysis if you don't have the chops. Just stick to the basic, "well we really sucked on offense the last two seasons", you'll get no argument from me on that.

All your assertions are flawed, Crowtons got his weaknesses, but the ones you mentioned aren't them.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:26 pm to
because Leslie is the problem
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:26 pm to
Crowton = terrible
JJ = confused and medicore
JL = Badly coached with bad habits
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

keeping a guy that finishes near the bottom of offense in the sec 2 years in a row just because we dont want to learn a new o isn't a good enough reason to keep him.


Our offense was actually better this year in sec play than it was in 08. Not that that means he should stay, but we did improve as the season went on.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:28 pm to
sadly doc jj is below average. he has worse stats than reggie ball
Posted by GratefulTiger
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:30 pm to
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All your assertions are flawed, Crowtons got his weaknesses, but the ones you mentioned aren't them.


ok so crowton isn't a fan of running short field options? he likes to throw it deep? his short WR screen passes work? do you like his obvious HB wing pass? or what about teaching ONE of our QBs to pump fake every now and then? and i definitely don't see enough play action(other than shotgun formation). i know they're many of other weaknesses, explain to me how i'm wrong. not trying to be offensive or a brat, just want you're opinion if you're going to call me out.
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 5:34 pm
Posted by ztraveler
metairie, la
Member since Aug 2007
564 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 5:31 pm to
1999 Bears Team offensive ranking 26th Crowton OC 6-10
2000 Bears Team offensive ranking 28th Crowton OC 5-12
2001 Bears Team offensive ranking 11th with John Schoop as OC
(not Crowton) 2001 the Bears went 13-3
2001 BYU - 618 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year. 12-2
2002 BYU - 272 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 5-7
2003 BYU - 196 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 3rd year. 4-8
2004 BYU - 267 Points scored in 11 games. Crowton's 4th year. 5-6
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2005 BYU - 396 Points scored in 12 games. 1st year w/o Crowton. 6-6
2006 BYU - 478 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton. 11-2

2005 Oregon - 414 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 1st year. 10-2
2006 Oregon - 383 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 7-6
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2007 Oregon - 496 Points scored in 13 games. 1st year w/o Crowton. 9-4
2008 Oregon - 545 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton. 10-3


2007 LSU - 541 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year. 12-2
2008 LSU - 402 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 8-5
2009 LSU - 323 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 3rd year. 9-4
2010 LSU - 313 points scored in 12 games Crowton’s 4th year.
(7 passing TDs - 1 a HB pass, 27 rushing TDs, 31 XPs, 26 FGM
This post was edited on 12/7/10 at 5:34 pm
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