Program is slipping?

it's the rant and our fans are stupid.

Hard to argue the program as a whole is slipping. The on-field performance is absolutely mediocre, but everything else required to be a power program is still intact.

For now.

I think the program is stable. But its not the same as it was in .05-'07. It is what it is at the present time.

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We aren't exactly racking them up recently.

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we are two seasons removed from A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

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Cause it'll shortly be 3 and then 4 years removed.

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and you know this how?

We may not win the national title this year, but would going 10-2 and getting to a solid bowl really be that devistating and a sign we are slipping?

Gettiing a 10 win seaosn and a BCS bowl would be a great season.

But yes our fan base is BULL

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Our conference and division are fricking competitive.

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Finishing 5 and 3 games out of our division in the past 2 years is not "fricking competitive".

It would be one thing if we had reason to assume our team is going to improve. It's not. No ones complaining about not being "dominant". We're complaining about not even being in the freaking mix.

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LSU has won 3 western division titles and 2 SEC Championships in the last 7 years.

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And if Miles finishes out his contract, you will more likely than not be able to say:

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LSU has won 3 western division titles and 2 SEC Championships in the last 12 years.

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You are an idiot.

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And you're illiterate.

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My point was there are other programs worth a damn in our division and conference.

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Yeah, and the programs worth a damn as a whole are getting the best of us.

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If you want to take 2008 in which a lot of things just went fricking wrong and say our program is shot then fine.

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And if you want to take 2007 in which EVERYTHING went right and say our program is where it should be then fine. We should be 3-2 in the conference right now, with a likely loss to Bama and possible loss to Arky to come.

I'm taking 2008, 2009, and 2010. If not for Tennessee pulling a Miles, we're 11-10 in the conference over the last 2.5 seasons. And you think people are complaining about not winning championships? frick, we're complaining about not resembling legitimate West contenders.

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You need to fricking mature a little bit and gain some fricking common sense if you think we are going to win every game and be in the mix every year.

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Every year? How about once post-2007?

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There are 6-7 programs in our conference with fans that expect to be in the mix every year and win championships.

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I'm not expecting to be in the conference mix and win championships every year. I'm expecting to have a shot at a West title. I'm all for starting small.

- Over the last 2.5 seasons, LSU 8-1 is against SEC teams that finished with/currently have a losing record. That's 3-5 or worse.

- Against teams .500 or better, LSU is 4-8. That's not competing or being in the mix.

- Take out the .500 teams. Since the NC, LSU's record against SEC teams with winning/currently winning conference records is...0-7.

I know all about the fierce competition in the conference, but these numbers imply that we aren't competing with those other quality teams.

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When some team is rolling off 4-5 straight SECCG and like 8 straight divisions titles get back to me?

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You aren't listening.

LSU has the worst fans. Their on your dick when your winning. frickin you in the arse when your losing..... No homo.

I guess I just don't understand what your reasonable expectations are for one of the top programs in the SEC might be.

LSU has finished 1st, 2nd, 1st, 4th, and 3rd in the SEC according to the final coaches poll. Our actual rankings were 5th, 3rd, 1st, 28th (extended out to additional votes), and 17th (probably a little underrated because of the bowl game conditions).

We will most likely finish 10-2 in the regular season. I wouldn't be surprised if a top 10 finish comes with this and a finish as the 2nd or 3rd highest ranked SEC team.

I think most people need to step back and realize the SEC environment. The # of SEC programs with the money, talent, and coaching to have huge success should show people that everything is earned in this conference.

I want to win the SEC Championship every year, but I know things need to just all fall into place to really go the distance in this conference.

Just realize lately an SEC Championship = National Championship to see really how difficult these accomplishments really are these days.