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re: how long can JL maintain a good attitude ?
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:09 pm to amarti9
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:09 pm to amarti9
Oh I agree I think the failures of both QBs over past three years hangs largely on the heads of the coaches, for one not adequately preparing them before throwing them to the wolves, two not calling proper plays that play to each's strengths while helping offset their weaknesses, three predictable play calling and repeatedly calling plays that didn't work the first 20 times, and four not developing the players without first destroying any confidence the player or the fans have in their abilities.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:09 pm to amarti9
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But in no way shape or form am I going to sit here and say JL is a better qb than JJ after all Ive seen the last 3 years.
- Really? I mean, with all the threads posting stats...really?
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:10 pm to Live2CTigersWin
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transfer
Where"
Isn't he a RS junior?
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:20 pm to snoggerT
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Really? I mean, with all the threads posting stats...really?
Yes really. Why? Because noone wants to put up all the stats.
The JL supporters NEVER want to put up his stats as a starter. Gee, I wonder why.
While on the flip side the JJ supporters are in denial as if there is nothing wrong.
Ive seen both of these guys long enough to know that If my life depended on it Id roll the dice with JJ.
Im STILL pissed about that one play where JL was like 3 or 4 yards from the first down and could have WALKED to it but chose to throw an ill-advised pass in double coverage that was almost picked off. I was HOT! True enough it shouldnt affect my feelings and thinking of LEE today but boy does that stick out in my mind when I see him play.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:21 pm to amarti9
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But in no way shape or form am I going to sit here and say JL is a better qb than JJ
Can you think of any qb that we have or will see this year that you would not take over JJ.
JJ is not a good qb. I thought he would be, and was hoping he would be. But I do not think I am the only one that cringes when Les puts him on the field.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:23 pm to amarti9
you should learn that the past is the past.
especially two yrs ago past.
especially two yrs ago past.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:24 pm to learnthehardway
If JL hasn't lost it yet, he isn't going to lose it.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:25 pm to amarti9
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Ive seen both of these guys long enough to know that If my life depended on it Id roll the dice with JJ.
and you would be a dead man
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Im STILL pissed about that one play where JL was like 3 or 4 yards from the first down and could have WALKED to it but chose to throw an ill-advised pass in double coverage that was
almost picked off.
when JL was a freshman ?
its 2010 bro , who is the better jr QB ? be honest
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:25 pm to novabill
Novabill,
I have the same thought but I dont cringe I just hopes the guy gets it together. Lee scares me. If you notice when they call plays for Lee its to the sideline when he throws. Im starting to wonder if he can pass down the middle. Same goes for JJ.
But the larger point to all this is that its been 3 years and we have yet to see solid and consistent qb play out of 2 guys who have been here for 3 spring sessions and 2 full seasons. Where is the coaching?
I have the same thought but I dont cringe I just hopes the guy gets it together. Lee scares me. If you notice when they call plays for Lee its to the sideline when he throws. Im starting to wonder if he can pass down the middle. Same goes for JJ.
But the larger point to all this is that its been 3 years and we have yet to see solid and consistent qb play out of 2 guys who have been here for 3 spring sessions and 2 full seasons. Where is the coaching?
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:28 pm to amarti9
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If you notice when they call plays for Lee its to the sideline when he throws. Im starting to wonder if he can pass down the middle.
do you watch LSU football ? JL ate UF alive throwing down the middle
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:32 pm to amarti9
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Where is the coaching?
It is yet to be hired here at LSU.
Les may be a great guy, I understand the players love him. However, he is not a good coach. Sure he is undefeated this year, but I think most any coach could have accomplished this with this team and in fact a good coach would have dominated some games and have us ranked even higher than we are.
I have never been a big LM fan and he has given me no reason to change my position.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:33 pm to learnthehardway
hopefully like matt flynn and know what kind of team lsu will be next year.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:35 pm to learnthehardway
learnthehardway,
I cant say JL is better because I havent seen him as a starter as of yet. Does he deserve a shot at being starter? As a JJ supporter Id say yes. Why not? The offense hasnt been pretty but then again when was the last time it did?
All Im saying is this for me to judge Lee FAIRLY agaisnt JJ now I would have to see him start and play the majority of a game. However Les, in his absolute genius, will never let that happen.
So in saying all that Im not going to drink the JL kool-aid as of now. I still remember what it tasted like last time.
I cant say JL is better because I havent seen him as a starter as of yet. Does he deserve a shot at being starter? As a JJ supporter Id say yes. Why not? The offense hasnt been pretty but then again when was the last time it did?
All Im saying is this for me to judge Lee FAIRLY agaisnt JJ now I would have to see him start and play the majority of a game. However Les, in his absolute genius, will never let that happen.
So in saying all that Im not going to drink the JL kool-aid as of now. I still remember what it tasted like last time.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:36 pm to novabill
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Les may be a great guy,
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understand the players love him
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Sure he is undefeated this year
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However, he is not a good coach
All of the above would sugggest inconsistancy, but it is cleared up by
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I have never been a big LM fan and he has given me no reason to change my position.
In other words, "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up."?
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:37 pm to novabill
Les may be a great guy, I understand the players love him. However, he is not a good coach. Sure he is undefeated this year, but I think most any coach could have accomplished this with this team and in fact a good coach would have dominated some games and have us ranked even higher than we are.
novabill
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it is my opinion that your opinion is worth shite.
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it is my opinion that your opinion is worth shite.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:38 pm to amarti9
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Ive seen both of these guys long enough to know that If my life depended on it Id roll the dice with JJ
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:44 pm to amarti9
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All Im saying is this for me to judge Lee FAIRLY agaisnt JJ now I would have to see him start and play the majority of a game. However Les, in his absolute genius, will never let that happen.
i agree 100%. I am not here trying to bash JJ , i dont know what happened but i feel bad for the kid at this point. it just looks like JL has matured and gives us the best chance going forward , especially against an upcoming auburn team whose weakness appears to be their secondary.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:46 pm to learnthehardway
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I am afraid that at some point JL's patience will run out
If it didn't happen after his treatment by us LSU fans during 08 and 09, it's sure not gonna happen when he is playing as much as he is now, throwing TDs, and helping LSU to becoming 7-0 and ranked in the Top 6.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:49 pm to BamaScoop
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He will never overcome being labelled an idiot if he allows JJ to lose this game next week.
completely agree, he will not only be done at LSU, but he will have to join malveto at some obscure college somwhere
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:50 pm to amarti9
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Ive seen both of these guys long enough to know that If my life depended on it Id roll the dice with JJ.
Truly defies reality.
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