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What about Crowton
Posted on 10/15/10 at 10:18 am
Posted on 10/15/10 at 10:18 am
Will we be stuck with him if the Tigers end up with 10 or 11 wins????
Posted on 10/15/10 at 10:28 am to srlad
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What about Crowton
Will we be stuck with him if the Tigers end up with 10 or 11 wins????
That is a good question. I would love to see the Tigers go all the way or at least win the West & play in the SEC CG but does that mean it would then be impossible to get rid of crowton? And don't give me the "why would you want to get rid of the OC who got you the 10-11 wins & into the SEC CG" I think it is very clear that crowton is the weakest link on this coaching staff. He has yet to truly develop a QB-flynn got by on his football smarts,natural ability, & an outstanding class around him. I would LOVE to see Coach Miles cut crowton & bring in a Chavis-like OC hire. No matter where you sit on the whole Coach Miles issue, you have to agree that he & his teams are at their best when he has great coordinators around him-like most legendary coaches. Coach Miles can recruit & "run" the program, he just needs to surround himself with coordinators who can coach & plan for the talent he brings in. 7,8,9,10,11,12, or 13 wins, it is time to cut loose ends & get some offensive talent on the coaching side of this team for the top recruits that show up at LSU. I said I thought the only 2 things keeping LSU, & the talent that is on this team, out of the top 5 & most BCS conversations was our QB & OC. QB thing seems to be "coming around", let's hope the other 1/2 of that equation gets fixed.
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
This post was edited on 10/15/10 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/15/10 at 11:21 am to srlad
At some point, If I were Les, I'd try Gary Crowton with a QB that can execute before I threw him and his system out the door. I think our O looks pretty decent with JL running it and even much improved with JJ in a run first mindset.
Play calling duties need to be adjusted also. I'm not sure you have to change OCs to fix our issues.
Play calling duties need to be adjusted also. I'm not sure you have to change OCs to fix our issues.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 11:23 am to srlad
Gary Crowton doesn't look too bad when Jarrett Lee is playing, FWIW...
Posted on 10/15/10 at 11:41 am to srlad
Crowton hasn't ever been the problem. It's always been the QB play. We're turning the corner with our QB's and have the opportunity to build on that fact next year with 2 senior QB's with a ton of game experience, a monster class about to be signed and all that backed up by 3 previous monster classes. The goal is to win. If our coaches are getting it done, support them. The best era in LSU football history is in front of us, not behind us.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 8:00 pm to srlad
I'm not sure what to make of GC.
The "Crowtonic Trend", i.e., decline in O production after his first year, is well substantiated. However, I have never seen where anyone took the time to normalize things so that one can account for all the factors that come into play.
It's more than JJ or JL. In fact, our O with JJ as a true Fr did ok in his two starts at the end of '08.
Our O didn't really go flat until '09 and stayed that way until JL entered against Tenn.
IMO, Les simply did not want to repeat the mistakes made in '08. So for '09, he simply restricted what GC was allowed to do. So it may be GC calling the plays, but it's been Les avoidance of '08 mistakes that have limited what GC was allowed to do.
I don't think Les was willing to let GC "run" the O until JJ fired the int against Tenn.
So if our O gets rid of the rough edges and really takes flight, I'm ok with GC. He has his limitations (as will the next OC) and I think the time mgt against Tenn was mostly his fault.
Let's see how things play out. If our O lights-up Bama this year (which at present I won't be surprised if it happens), what then?
The "Crowtonic Trend", i.e., decline in O production after his first year, is well substantiated. However, I have never seen where anyone took the time to normalize things so that one can account for all the factors that come into play.
It's more than JJ or JL. In fact, our O with JJ as a true Fr did ok in his two starts at the end of '08.
Our O didn't really go flat until '09 and stayed that way until JL entered against Tenn.
IMO, Les simply did not want to repeat the mistakes made in '08. So for '09, he simply restricted what GC was allowed to do. So it may be GC calling the plays, but it's been Les avoidance of '08 mistakes that have limited what GC was allowed to do.
I don't think Les was willing to let GC "run" the O until JJ fired the int against Tenn.
So if our O gets rid of the rough edges and really takes flight, I'm ok with GC. He has his limitations (as will the next OC) and I think the time mgt against Tenn was mostly his fault.
Let's see how things play out. If our O lights-up Bama this year (which at present I won't be surprised if it happens), what then?
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