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Crowton's history with QBs

Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:19 pm
Posted by aibo synthetic
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:19 pm
Why is Crowton so good with QBs that are already matured when he gets a hold of them, and so bad with younger QBs? For the life of me, I can't figure this out. When he took over he and Flynn and produced one of (if not the) most prolific LSU offenses ever. Same at La Tech with Rattay if my memory serves.

Can anyone offer up a theory on bi-polar nature of Crowton's offense?
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:19 pm to
just look up Dennis Dixon and John Becks stats during and after Crowton, you'll see.
This post was edited on 9/30/10 at 2:21 pm
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Why is Crowton so good with QBs that are already matured when he gets a hold of them, and so bad with younger QBs? For the life of me, I can't figure this out.


Answer: Crowton is not a SEC-caliber OC.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175418 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:20 pm to
He would be one of the best offensive coordinators to ever grace college football if he changed schools every season.
Posted by deSandman
Member since Mar 2007
969 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Can anyone offer up a theory on bi-polar nature of Crowton's offense?

He's solid at strategy and terrible at development?
Posted by Teacher
Member since Sep 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:29 pm to
Crowton can not recruit QBs.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:29 pm to
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Read this!!!!!
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49036 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:35 pm to
Gary Crowton is a good offensive coordinator when he doesn't run his offense and doesn't play with his players.

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

He's solid at adding in a few new wrinkles and terrible at both strategy and development?


FIFY
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11498 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:42 pm to
I thought that is why we hired Billy Gonzales as the "passing game coordinator." How do you think that is working out so far?
Posted by LSU_Lou
The Landmass between N.O & Mobile
Member since Jul 2005
2094 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

LSU has great athletes and he will find a way to make them look bad.


quote:

Be ready for an undisciplined offense that fails to make any adjustments-during the game or season.


The dude in that article was dead on!!!!
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:55 pm to
OUCH! comments below the article hurt...

Phil says:
August 23, 2008 at 11:49 am
Just wait till Gary has to develop his own QB, you LSU fans will forget that national championship faster than you can say “3 years of rebuilding”
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52735 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

How do you think that is working out so far?
we'll see when he takes over as OC
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:57 pm to
David says:
August 14, 2008 at 11:42 am
As an Oregon fan I can say the biggest problem that I had with Crowton was his inability to design plays to get to the playmakers on the team. He had a set group of plays he liked to call, and he would call them no matter what. He couldn’t seem to recognize a players strength, and adjust his play calling to match. That in my opinion is huge in college football because you are dealing with young players who are continuously growing and changing from the time you sign them to the time they leave your program.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 2:59 pm to
I am telling you guys I read this in the middle of last year when one of my friends brought it to my attention. It is truly scary, truly!
Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
4205 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Read this!!!!!
Yep, this article has made its rounds around here and I commented on it then too...Crowton is terrible and he's still vilified around here. Bring up his name down in Provo and their Jesus jammies start to run up and down their legs like window shades.

Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Bring up his name down in Provo and their Jesus jammies start to run up and down their legs like window shades.




Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Why is Crowton so good with QBs that are already matured when he gets a hold of them, and so bad with younger QBs? For the life of me, I can't figure this out. When he took over he and Flynn and produced one of (if not the) most prolific LSU offenses ever. Same at La Tech with Rattay if my memory serves.

Can anyone offer up a theory on bi-polar nature of Crowton's offense?


My theory is that Crowton is terrible at coaching QBs. When he takes over an offense with a QB who has been properly coached, he does well because his schemes can be complicated and requires good, accurate throws and reads by a confident QB.

When it comes to actually teaching a QB fundamentals, how to read a defense, how to properly throw the ball, etc.. he has no clue on how to teach... This in turns ruins the QBs confidence in themselves running this scheme. His playcalling doesn't help things because once a defense starts figuring him out he panics and starts calling plays that make absolutley no sense with the intention of throwing the defense off.
This post was edited on 9/30/10 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

His playcalling doesn't help things because once a defense starts figuring him out he panics and starts calling plays that make absolutley no sense with the intention of throwing the defense off.




Like continuously running JJ in the option?
Posted by JW1LL
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
317 posts
Posted on 9/30/10 at 3:46 pm to
Gary Crowton has ruined the possibility of at least one good QB...I imagine his staying had an effect on Zach Lee's decision to go to the Dodgers because just a week before that he convinced everyone here that he was a Tiger and he was here to play football. As for Billy Gonzales i doubt he has much of a say so as far as the QB goes...ill bet hes mainly a WR's TE type of guy...Just baffles my mind how Jefferson goes to the Manning camp and gets advice from all of the Mannings, stays hours after practice with his recievers in the spring to build chemistry and studies film only to get worse...IT HAS TO BE THE COACHING.
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