"...embarrassing to the point of being humiliating."

It really can't be put into words how embarrassing it is for UNC. They are very fine institution that loves basketball first, and they have let a football program smear their good name.

UNC is a great academic institution. It is amazing how many college textbooks have been written or edited by UNC professors.

I remember how gracious their fans were a couple years ago when we lost to them in the NCAA's.

Butch Davis allowed that Miami-thug academics environment to permeate the atmosphere up there, and it resulted in the embarrassment of a superior academic institution.

Man, I'm glad that guy wasn't hired at LSU--and now, obviously never will be.

I always thought if you weren't cheating, your weren't trying hard enough. And by the way. If you don't think some of the stuff going at UNC doesn't go on at most other schools, you're fooling yourself.

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I always thought if you weren't cheating, your weren't trying hard enough. And by the way. If you don't think some of the stuff going at UNC doesn't go on at most other schools, you're fooling yourself.

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I keep seeing post like this. If it IS happening at LSU, I would be embarrassed and disappointed and want whoever allowed it to happen to be fired. I would not like to have a Championship at the expense of honor on our team.
Maybe I am naive, but I believe that Les tries hard to maintain an honorable program. If you have definite evidence, or any one else has definite evidence that shows our program is corrupt, please bring it forward or shut up.

I talked to UNC alumni yesterday that knows Davis and the AD..

"He is so upset about this scandal...he said we are UNC...we don't cheat in academics"

Listen, small stuff happens everywhere. You get notes from a classmate, look at old tests from the teachers, ask someone to write a paper for you and pay em $20 or some small bullshite like that.

But what doesn't happen everywhere is one tudor/cheater writing papers for the whole team, and getting cash for it by getting paid by the university and THE HEAD COACH. THen hangin with his son at his home while getting paid and all these people acting like Davis knew nothing about her doing the players work.!

If you've ever been in a college locker room, thletic dorm, or a "study hall" for players, you know everyone talks ALOT and tells everyone almost everything about someone like this who works for the coach and does your work for you!

Are you kidding me, hell yeah it goes on alot. I have to give props to the ones that didn't give in to teh scheme, cause I promise there are plenty who said NO and did it themselves. (or had their girlfreinds do it!)

I'll bet there are hundreds of athletes across the country sweating when they heard what these guys are busted for.

NOTE: none of this happens if the assholes who went to the agents party don't do that!

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Being so close to this UNC scandal, as opening game opponents, I hope this serves as a great reminder to LSU players to keep themselves clean as a whistle as it pertains to agent contact and letting tutors write papers! Oh, what's that other old saying... "Hand your paper to the tutor, and you'll take one in the pooter"? Well, not really an old saying, but...

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I have a question about this and maybe someone will now the answer.

If the players were allowing a tutor to write the paper for them wouldn't that constitute academic fraud and require that they be expelled from the university instead of just suspended from the football team?

I mean they are attending college and the academics are suppose to be the primary goal of attending a univeristy.

I, for one, am in total shock that a college student would get help writing papers. Not since Thornton Mellon's brief tenure in college hve I seen student behavior as heinous as this!

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But is it as prevalent everywhere as it is in this particular case and does the coaching staff endorse or allow it to happen are the key questions.

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Right... What the University is concerned about, and damn well should be, is a USC "Loss of Institutional Control" Violation with suspension frombowls in the future, etc. If this pans out the way it is going, they are in deep trouble. Reggie Bush's f-up was only 1 player involved. This could be multiple as it is pointing towards which would make the penalty a lot worse.

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I have a question about this and maybe someone will now the answer.

If the players were allowing a tutor to write the paper for them wouldn't that constitute academic fraud and require that they be expelled from the university instead of just suspended from the football team?

I mean they are attending college and the academics are suppose to be the primary goal of attending a univeristy.

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I know if I was caught cheating on an exam with 15 of my buddies we'd all get booted out of school.

Good point.