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Not encouraging news
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:18 am
Had a talk with my boss earlier, hadn't heard this till then but the government made all owners/presidents of any oil company operating in the GOM sign federal documents stating that there company was in full compliance and will stay in full compliance with all fed regs. Now this sounds like a good thing but the thought is that there is an alternative motive behind it. This allows the Govm to hold company owners/presidents liable for any thing there companies do. This as well as the moratorium is seen a another way to hinder the oil companies from working in the GOM.
ADC 2010 Chairman Louis Raspino, Pride International, noted: "The small businesses that hold the big players together can't afford six months of no revenue. In a very short period of time, we're going to see this industry implode."
ADC 2010 Chairman Louis Raspino, Pride International, noted: "The small businesses that hold the big players together can't afford six months of no revenue. In a very short period of time, we're going to see this industry implode."
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Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:22 am to GREENHEAD22
More of Obama's own agenda
quote:
Technical experts described their involvement with the government's safety recommendations. Both Moe Plaisance, Diamond Offshore, and Tom Williams, Nautilus International, felt their work on separate committees had been misused to support a moratorium when that was not what their groups had recommended.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:30 am to GREENHEAD22
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Technical experts described their involvement with the government's safety recommendations. Both Moe Plaisance, Diamond Offshore, and Tom Williams, Nautilus International, felt their work on separate committees had been misused to support a moratorium when that was not what their groups had recommended.
The Obama administration has mastered this. Appoint a committee of experts, have them issue a report to the White House, then BHO's minions issue it with a different conclusion, making it seem as if it came from the experts. This is happening time and time again.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:42 am to GREENHEAD22
quote:
"The small businesses that hold the big players together can't afford six months of no revenue. In a very short period of time, we're going to see this industry implode."
I guess just about everything Big O and his goons are trying to accomplish is going according to plan then.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:50 am to GREENHEAD22
this isn't all that different from Sarbanes-Oxley which requires presidents and other top management of publicly traded companies to sign-off on their publicly released financials. just makes them have a personal interest in making sure everything is as it should be.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:50 am to GREENHEAD22
Because holding people who drill for oil and profit enormously off of it is a bad thing 
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:08 am to GREENHEAD22
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This allows the Govm to hold company owners/presidents liable for any thing there companies do
Am I missing something here? Why shouldn't they be held responsible?
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:09 am to Charles Bronson
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Charles Bronson
Sorry for going Germans on ya. Didn't read down before posting.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:11 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Amazing how conservative values have gone off the deep end to ignore why big business should be culpable when they mess up.
Conservatives have for years talked about responsibility and accountability, and when it finally hits home, they think measures to ensure accountability are bad. I honestly don't understand it.
Conservatives have for years talked about responsibility and accountability, and when it finally hits home, they think measures to ensure accountability are bad. I honestly don't understand it.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:13 am to GREENHEAD22
The Obama Administration makes the Politburo seem honest and transparent.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:34 am to udtiger
This is simply an expansion of the certification process that has been required on the structural side of the industry.
30CFR 250.905(k)
30CFR 250.905(k)
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:45 am to Sid in Lakeshore
I guess I should have clarified when I said liable, personally and criminally liable. Financially liable is a given, there is no arguments about that.
If you cant understand why this is stupid and wrong then I cant help ya.
If you cant understand why this is stupid and wrong then I cant help ya.
This post was edited on 7/10/10 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:52 am to GREENHEAD22
A doctor is criminally liable. Why shouldn't oil millionaires and billionaires be?
I thought you were a supporter of responsibility and accountability, or is that just a rouse?
I thought you were a supporter of responsibility and accountability, or is that just a rouse?
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:58 am to Charles Bronson
A doctor doing something wrong with one of his patients and this case are two totally different things. How is a president of a huge company suppose to be liable for the mistakes an employee of that company. If the person does not deal with the day today operations and had no say so or control over what happened on a rig per say. To hold him personally liable is not rite. You hold the project manager and company man that was making the call liable. Or whoever was the one that did not follow procedure and put lives at risk/ cost lives.
This post was edited on 7/10/10 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:01 pm to GREENHEAD22
You don't understand how medicine works, chief.
I don't understand why you think the owner, the head honcho, the big cheese, the guy profiting the most, shouldn't be criminally liable if his outfit is not following laws. It's ultimately his responsibility to ensure his company follows the law and regulations.
I don't understand why you think the owner, the head honcho, the big cheese, the guy profiting the most, shouldn't be criminally liable if his outfit is not following laws. It's ultimately his responsibility to ensure his company follows the law and regulations.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:03 pm to GREENHEAD22
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I thought you were a supporter of responsibility and accountability
I am diff all for it but I am not for making scapegoats to please masses. What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong.
Ex. Yes the Brits are arrogant assholes but that doesn't mean they need to go to jail.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:05 pm to GREENHEAD22
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To hold him personally liable is not rite. You hold the project manager and company man that was making the call liable. Or whoever was the one that did not follow procedure and put lives at risk/ cost lives.
the guberment is printing all those papers up right now, and having a big a&& filling cabnet made.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:06 pm to GREENHEAD22
People go to jail for a lot less than those foreign and domestic terrorists at BP.
You break regulations, you cause ecological disasters, you deserve to go to jail. The inherent white collar get out of jail pass culture needs to go. If you can go to jail for not paying attention while driving and killing someone, you should go to jail for being negligent in big business.
Being educated and rich is not an excuse!
You break regulations, you cause ecological disasters, you deserve to go to jail. The inherent white collar get out of jail pass culture needs to go. If you can go to jail for not paying attention while driving and killing someone, you should go to jail for being negligent in big business.
Being educated and rich is not an excuse!
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:08 pm to Charles Bronson
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People go to jail for a lot less than those foreign and domestic terrorists at BP.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:11 pm to Charles Bronson
What if the doctor's tech forgets to write that the patient is allergic to sulf drugs and the doc writes an rx for a sulfa drug? Who's going to get sued?
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