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Gary Crowton went away from the run to quick last yr
Posted on 5/23/10 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 5/23/10 at 2:36 pm
i know the offensive line was bad last yr but i think most of the blame should fall on Crowton for our bad offense last yr the only teams in the sec that had fewer rushing attempts were South Carolina Arkansas and Georgia Jordan Jefferson was a first yr starting qb and Crowton should have ran the rock more Charles Scott was avg 4.7 a carry and Keiland Williams was avg 5.3 a carry Crowton didnt give them the ball enough
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 2:38 pm to robdoglsu4life
I agree that Crowton abandoned running formations too early last season, but this has been beaten to death.
I bet this is going to be a long summer for you...
I bet this is going to be a long summer for you...
Posted on 5/23/10 at 5:26 pm to robdoglsu4life
well, the only games we threw the ball more than we ran it were auburn and ole miss. so let's not act like gary turned his back on the run.
nothing wrong with the offense, just the execution.
but yes, we've beaten this to death. my goodness.
nothing wrong with the offense, just the execution.
but yes, we've beaten this to death. my goodness.
Posted on 5/23/10 at 5:31 pm to jrich11
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nothing wrong with the offense, just the execution.
Huh?
Posted on 5/23/10 at 5:36 pm to deuce985
Option run to short side, worst play in college football 
Posted on 5/23/10 at 5:49 pm to Doc Fenton
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I agree that Crowton abandoned running formations too early last season
What do you mean by run formations?
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:18 pm to moneyg
as it pertains to LSU's offense in 2009, i suppose "running formation" mostly just means anything non-shotgun with at least one RB & one TE.
of course, the power running formations on 3rd and short were even worse than the shotgun formations, but let's not complicate things too much right now.
there are so many different multi-faceted aspects to crowton's arse-hattery that it's just overwhelming to try to talk about them all in may...
of course, the power running formations on 3rd and short were even worse than the shotgun formations, but let's not complicate things too much right now.
there are so many different multi-faceted aspects to crowton's arse-hattery that it's just overwhelming to try to talk about them all in may...
Posted on 5/23/10 at 6:22 pm to robdoglsu4life
:beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:11 pm to moneyg
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What do you mean by run formations?
Exactly, unless you call telegraphing the run a formation.
Posted on 5/23/10 at 8:11 pm to Doc Fenton
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as it pertains to LSU's offense in 2009, i suppose "running formation" mostly just means anything non-shotgun with at least one RB & one TE.
I think that is by design...and I think that we will be running out of the shotgun for the majority of our running plays this year (successful or not).
Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:20 pm to moneyg
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I think that is by design...
which is why i blame crowton.
it's true that i also think that lsu should have been a pass-strong rather than a run-strong offense last season, but given our o-line and qb problems, i wanted to see that out of the i-formation rather than the other shite we did.
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and I think that we will be running out of the shotgun for the majority of our running plays this year (successful or not)
maybe gonzales can make it work for this fall, but it will require a much higher level of competence (at all positions on offense and with coaching) than what occurred last year.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 3:34 am to bigwheel
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Option run to short side, worst play in college football
this is the one that gets me - I have never heard a reason to even have this play in the playbook - especially when we fail so badly EVERY time we ran it - did we EVER gain a yard with this play????
Posted on 5/24/10 at 3:47 am to ChineseBandit58
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this is the one that gets me - I have never heard a reason to even have this play in the playbook - especially when we fail so badly EVERY time we ran it - did we EVER gain a yard with this play????
Keiland Williams vs. Virginia Tech says we've gained some yards doing it before. It's worked before, that's why Crowton tried it. He might have been too stubborn in trying to break one, though.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:21 am to ChineseBandit58
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EVERY time we ran it - did we EVER gain a yard with this play????
Against Mississippi State we gained 30yds on 31 attempts which is less than one yard per carry. With our O-Line, in that game, it really didn't matter what play we ran.
This post was edited on 5/25/10 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/24/10 at 9:22 am to Jeeves
Until LSU rises to a great football team again it will be a long summer for true tiger fans. Your :beatdeadhorse: telling us how sorry Crowton is. I thought it was understood. 
Posted on 5/24/10 at 5:15 pm to aglandry
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Against Washington we gained 30yds on 31 attempts which is less than one yard per carry. With our O-Line, in that game, it really didn't matter what play we ran.
We gained 149 yards on 29 carries.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 5:26 pm to Jeeves
Well if you're going to quibble over a mere hundred yards here or there...
EDIT: FWIW, the 31-30 stat from last season comes from the MSU game, but it's skewed not only by 2 sacks for 19 yards, but also by 4 "team" rushes for a loss of 37 yards on bad snaps with the kicking teams (and whatever else happened). For the normal 25 rushing plays, LSU gained 86 yards, which isn't good, of course, but that's why it was the worst rushing game of the year.
EDIT: FWIW, the 31-30 stat from last season comes from the MSU game, but it's skewed not only by 2 sacks for 19 yards, but also by 4 "team" rushes for a loss of 37 yards on bad snaps with the kicking teams (and whatever else happened). For the normal 25 rushing plays, LSU gained 86 yards, which isn't good, of course, but that's why it was the worst rushing game of the year.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 5/24/10 at 10:01 pm to robdoglsu4life
quote:I would have been happy if you would have stopped right there....
Gary Crowton went away
Posted on 5/24/10 at 10:34 pm to bigwheel
that play always looks soooo uncomfortable from the very start, everytime it attempts to unfold. jj and the rb's look hesitant and uncomfortable from the snap, and jefferson has no innate ability to properly judge keep vs. pitch. he is a pro style qb with above average legs.god, how they need to eliminate that play. we get more yards from fake punts.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 11:46 pm to ChineseBandit58
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this is the one that gets me - I have never heard a reason to even have this play in the playbook - especially when we fail so badly EVERY time we ran it - did we EVER gain a yard with this play????
It has about a .2% success rate
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