sick of hearing

Didn't they seal off the drillpipe today and complete construction on the coffer?

Yes I do. The challenge they're facing is the biggest our industry has ever seen. Things are not going to happen as fast as people want them to.

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Things are not going to happen as fast as people want them to.

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obviously

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And then the spill took a back seat all weekend to the bomb that didn't go off in NYC. Had to read the scrollers on CNN to get any updates

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i guess because the media wasn't hyperventilating and giving every possible doomsday scenario means that BP, the Feds, USCG, local government, etc. was just sitting around waiting for the media to start talking about the spill again so they could start working.

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we will be, we are going to, we are waiting on, we hope to, tomorrow,tomorrow,tomorrow. DO SOMETHING TODAY BP. STOP GUESSING AND DO SOMETHING NOW. If it does not work do something else,but DO something now not tomorrow or friday or by the end of the week. I'm sick of hearing you made 50 billion $. Spend every fregging penney to stop this. And shame on you for trying to get the good citizens of this state to sign your damn waivers. Your lucky they want to help. They are all extremely hard working people. Use them and they might help get you out of this mess. And if you try to pass the buck or screw this state so help me i will lead the rally to get rid of you. By the way i live in north louisiana and have no financial dog in this fight. But i have lots of hard working and great friends in south louisiana, and i enjoy the few times i get to go fishing with them. AND I HOPE SOMEDAY TO TAKE MY SON FISHING DOWN THERE. You remember this!!!!!!!

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I would like to make sure the board understands that this idiotic remark is NOT the sentiment of North Louisiana..


This guy is a hack

ibldpg:

No, why dont you shut the hell up. Does anyone know what the hell is going on?

lsupepper - most people feel about the same. The bottom line here is that we allowed drilling to happen at depths that the oil industry cant handle. All the "fixes" can happen because its quote "too deep you idiot". Well, if its too deep that you cant fix a problem - then dont drill there. Que the haters and morons.

Several good points there, much appreciated - last night I saw (CNN) i think, reporting the oil shore industry was 99.999% "safe".

In my industry, physician mistakes kill between 16-26,000 people per year. That doesnt include nursing, lab, pharm, hospital mistakes.

but the problem is, you got a very potential mega disaster looming, and its because your industry cannot handle mistakes of deep sea drilling. Supposeidly (sp) several European countries regulate that oil companies have to put a BOP on the rigs that can be remotely controlled, and the USA does not. Because that type of BOP costs ALOT of money. Well, from a layperson's viewpoint, if you drill in areas you cannot handle and you have a solution (these types of BOPs - at least for the deep wells) - then they should have been using them.

And I dont view this as 20/20 hindsight - just common sense.

I won't claim to know all about BOP's, or what's available. My knowledge about them is increasing, some from the knowledge of others posting on the board, and because I'm having to work more closely with them now then I have had to in the past.

I'd take what you hear on the news with a grain of salt. Since the explosion, every news source has reported false, or misleading, information about our industry and the efforts going on to try and stop this environmental disaster.

Having said that, I'm not too sure that the reason that they are not used in the US (if this is infact true) is because they are too expensive. In fact, every drilling facility that I've been on (both deepwater and shelf) has had a BOP with a remote station. There's a station on the rig floor in the drillers shack. And a remote station either near or in the toolpushers office, or somewhere else, away from the rig floor, so that in case of a situation like this, it can be activated.

This is what I was trying to explain in my first post. Everything failed. There wasn't time to activate it from the rig floor. It was in flames before they knew what happened, and they were probably dead before they heard the explosion. The remote station either didn't work, or they couldn't get to it for one reason or another. If I recall correctly, I don't think it worked, but maybe someone else could shed more light on it.

I'd like to see a link where they say this, so we can compare their findings with the truth in the field.

And lets not forget what really happened out there. An explosion happened somewhere around 10 PM. Tour change (what they call shift changee) probably happened at 6 PM, or 12. Most companies work 6 to 6 offshore, I've seen some work from 12 to 12 though. So half the people on location were sleeping. There were 126 people total on board. By day break (for sake of argument, lets call it 7 AM. 11 were missing. So between the hours of 11 PM, and 7 AM, all of the survivors were accounted for, and they were either heading to the hospital or were on location on rescue vessels. By day break, the rig was already listing significantly. I'd say that, and this is a padded figure, that nobody was on the rig 20 minutes after the explosion. When we do evacuation drills offshore, we have a certain time frame to complete the drill in. And it happens very quickly. From the time the alarm sounds (for a fire drill), until the time that everyone is at their life rafts, usually 8 minutes have passed. 8 minutes to round up 126 people on a facility the size of a cruise ship.

Let's just say that there's a magic BOP that's used overseas that we don't use in the USA because it is too expensive (for the news to even state that as a reason is irresponsible and slanderous). And lets say that it was on the Deepwater Horizon when it exploded. Maybe the remote station is damaged. Maybe they can't get to it. Maybe they can use it, and do, but it fails. You've got 6 minutes left to get to the boats before they launch.

You can't go to the rig floor and use that main station. It's in flames.

You're out of choices.

I don't know if this could have been prevented. And saying that it could have been prevented if we wouldn't even be out there drilling is just an idiots argument.

Deepwater leases are rich with oil, extremely rich with oil. Most shelf work is gas wells. There's oil on the shelf, and gas deepwater, but in general, shelf is better for gas, deep is better for oil.

The work has to be done, unless you'd like to import all of our oil from other countries, and put all of the oil field workers in the US out of work.

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Didnt it take them like at least a week to kill that blowout next to I-10 by the Atchafalaya last year

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At least that long. I know it shut down the basin for several days (I was living in BR at the time and crew changing out of ICY. Had to take the old way through Opelousas back home after crew change because the basin was closed).