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Environmental engineering
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:00 pm
SO, my son wants to major in this ... is it a wiser choice today than it was prior to this terrible incident? Should he change?????
May the 11 rest in peace ...
May the 11 rest in peace ...
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:09 pm to tiger91
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is it a wiser choice today than it was prior to this terrible incident?
No.
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Should he change?????
Depends on what he wants to do.
That being said, probably.
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May the 11 rest in peace ...
+1
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:09 pm to tiger91
No offense, but your son sounds a lot smarter than you.
Of course it is a wise choice, if that's what he wants. The spill is irrelevant to that.
Of course it is a wise choice, if that's what he wants. The spill is irrelevant to that.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:12 pm to wilceaux
He is smarter than me ... I'm just his mom. What he WANTS to do is really is more on the lines of coastal restoration ... which would be more renewable natural resources or coastal conservation. BUT he wants to do this through an engineering degree as suggested by Dr. Pardu of LSU's env eng dept. He was asking me what I thought ...
And I'm sorry ... but why does he sound smarter than me?
And I'm sorry ... but why does he sound smarter than me?
This post was edited on 5/3/10 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 5/4/10 at 12:32 am to tiger91
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is it a wiser choice today than it was prior to this terrible incident?
i think so. so much emphasis is put on environmental planning and management now that after this it will only be magnified. While environmental engineering definitely looks like a fad, I do believe it is here to stay.
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Should he change?????
No, I think by the time he graduates there will probably be a lot of security in his field.
But this is all just my opinion. I wish I had done Environmental Systems Management instead of Construction Management. But thats just me.
Best of luck to your son.
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 12:35 am
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:23 am to tiger91
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What he WANTS to do is really is more on the lines of coastal restoration
if he is more interested in the engineering aspects of restoration, he should go civil. 75% of the guys that work in the Office of Coastal Protection and Restoration all are civil. that's what the gov. agencies and private companies want. I know this because I am about to graduate civil and tried pretty hard to work in the field. i worked in LSU's river model lab, and know a few guys at Dept. Natural Resources. nobody is hiring in the field right now because the state is under a hiring freeze and the funds that were all allocated during Katrina are going to run out in a few years (they're mostly allocated to projects in construction or design already). There are no funds on the horizon until something like 2017 when offshore royalty payments will start being made to the state. all of the private contractors like shaw, t. baker smith, gec, brown and caldwell, jacobs etc. aren't hiring either. maybe this timeline is good for him if he hasnt started college yet (and it will take 4.5-5 yrs to finish it).
also a lot of these companies want guys either already with a masters' in coastal eng. or willing to go back to LSU to get one.
if he really wants to do this, he should ask the professors who teach water resources classes in civil engineering about being a student worker for on of them.(fluid mechanics, hydraulics, groundwater, coastal eng.) this is the best way to get first hand experience, sometimes even out in the field.
if your son is interested in the biological aspects of restoration, he should look into LSU's school of Coast and Environment, or Biological Engineering. Several guys that work at DNR right now are biological engineers.
i would shy away from the school of renewable natural resources because most of those people seem to end up as academics rather than working on specific things.
hope that helped.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 6:49 am to man in the stadium
civil is a wiser decision as it gives him many more options.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 6:56 am to tiger91
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And I'm sorry ... but why does he sound smarter than me?
Because randomn insults bring you down (hopefully to them) and make them bigger boys.
Lay all the facts out for him and hopefully he will choose what he WANTS to do. Being pleased in your profession is much more important than most other things (within reason).
Posted on 5/4/10 at 7:45 am to jeffsdad
I graduated from Environmental Engineering from LSU and have worked strictly in the civil field since college. I now own a small civil engineering firm so he always has the ability to move fields. There are many common aspects of Civil and Environmental. In addition once you get licensed the fields are interchangeable. I will say passing the PE exam is a little more difficult from an environmental engineering perspective. The Civil Engineering curriculum prepares you a little better for the test but he will not be stuck in strictly environemtal engineering if he later chooses he wants to try another discipline.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 7:50 am to tiger91
I apologize, tiger91.
I wasn't in a very good mood last night, and was an a-hole for no good reason.
Either path he would choose, EE or CE, would be a wise move on his part.
I wasn't in a very good mood last night, and was an a-hole for no good reason.
Either path he would choose, EE or CE, would be a wise move on his part.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:11 am to tiger91
What does the oil spill have to do with what your son graduates in? I don't see how an oil spill can make e.e. a good or bad decision to graduate in.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:13 am to tiger91
It's just as smart today as it was prior to the event.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:37 am to Volvagia
I got out of environmental once I graduated bc I wanted to steer a little bit away from govenrment funding and be a little more reliant on the private sector. I know civil engineering has a large government funded area for capital improvement projects but I didn't want to rely on mostly uncle sam.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:48 am to CharlesLSU
quote:Send him to MSU. My son just graduated in Civil Eng., but the program is Civil and Environmental Engineering.
civil is a wiser decision as it gives him many more options.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:50 am to tiger91
I would recommend the civil route. With that, he could do environmental work or go another route if he so chooses. I would suggest, if there is any influence from the spill it would slant in the favor of the environmental professions favor.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:47 am to saltybulldog
If he does stay in environmental, have him focus on air issues. At least in Texas, that's where the jobs are, especially with the chem plants and refineries.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 12:04 pm to tiger91
im in the coastal engineering grad program and love it. i got my undergrad in civil, but either way there will be not shortage of work EVER in either field. i doubt i'll ever get rich but my salary right out of school is more than most. its hard work through school, but i find my job very rewarding and really like what i do. its not for everyone, but if its what he likes you should def encourage him
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:58 pm to nhassl1
Thanks everyone. I should explain that what he says he has wanted is Environmental ... then he talked to an engineer or 2 that suggested civil. We are a farming family and after Hurricane Rita in 05 and Gustav in 08 (?) he's always said he wants to do something with "protecting/restoring the coastline" as our farm and community were both affected which to me is coastal eng but whatever. The guy at env eng said that's a large part of what he does. After looking at the env program, it has lots of civil eng classes.
I asked this question due to my son saying something about perhaps not having to worry about a job when he graduates from LSU in env eng. He said felt bad at the thought of him having good job opportunities due to this event.
I would never tell him to choose a career based on a certain event ... I have always told him I don't care WHAT he does BUT he must 1) be able to support himself and those who he needs to support and 2) enjoy what he does.
That said, he can choose whatever ... it was just another random topic brought to the board.
I asked this question due to my son saying something about perhaps not having to worry about a job when he graduates from LSU in env eng. He said felt bad at the thought of him having good job opportunities due to this event.
I would never tell him to choose a career based on a certain event ... I have always told him I don't care WHAT he does BUT he must 1) be able to support himself and those who he needs to support and 2) enjoy what he does.
That said, he can choose whatever ... it was just another random topic brought to the board.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:04 pm to Houston Texas Tiger
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Houston Texas Tiger
That was one of my concerns ... could he work in the civil field with the env eng degree. I just want him to be able to get a job!
AND I thought env might be a fad ...
AND truth be told, he'd rather be the ONE doing the restoration ... getting dirty, operating equipment. You CANNOT take the farm out of the boy!
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