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WTF Is Guilbeau Talking About?

Posted on 3/4/10 at 5:59 am
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 5:59 am
quote:

Offensive coordinator Gary Crowton went into 2009 thinking he could do so many things with his offense, and he did.
Unfortunately, few things worked, and he finished 112th in the nation in total offense. Crowton and Gonzales and Miles need to find out just a few things that suits this team best and work on it now.
Variety is the spice of life, but it was the curse of LSU’s offense last year.


That offense was the most bland, obvious, and predictable offense I may have ever witnessed. From people watching on TV to opposing players on the field, they all knew what LSU was going to run before they even lined up.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:08 am to
He is talking about how it seems that Crowton had LSU running under several different offensive mindsets - from spread to pistol option, to throwing in the wildcat with RS, to an I-form. Which is fine, but the packages that Crowton put together were ineffective and because they were, that's where what you were saying came into place - that when we did run the ball, it seemed that the other team knew what was going to happen. When you are effective at doing all the other stuff, then you can run the ball effectively because they have to respect a PA pass and can't just stack up the line.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46103 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:12 am to
I actually kinda agree with him. Yeah we were predictable, but we still tried to do a lot of things instead of establishing consistency.

quote:

they all knew what LSU was going to run before they even lined up.



hmmm. I could sometimes guess on down and distance or personnel, but I usually needed to see the formation before I could be sure.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:16 am to
quote:

I actually kinda agree with him

I do too. I like how Gordy Rush described it, "jack of all trades, master of none".
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:18 am to
basically he's saying the Crowton has lots of different formations and looks but only a limited amount of plays out of each formation. IMO, he would be served better by sticking to basic I-Form, pistol, Ace and shotgun formations and drawing up a ton of different plays from each.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297060 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:26 am to
quote:
Offensive coordinator Gary Crowton went into 2009 thinking he could do so many things with his offense, and he did.
Unfortunately, few things worked, and he finished 112th in the nation in total offense. Crowton and Gonzales and Miles need to find out just a few things that suits this team best and work on it now.
Variety is the spice of life, but it was the curse of LSU’s offense last year.



That offense was the most bland, obvious, and predictable offense I may have ever witnessed. From people watching on TV to opposing players on the field, they all knew what LSU was going to run before they even lined up.



Miles talked occasionally after games about repeatedly attempting to do what they WANTED to do (run up the middle mainly) instead of what was working. I think watching LSU play it was obvious. The staff ran what they wanted to establish instead of what appeared to be working.

Pretty sure opposing coaches could figure this out as well. Lets hope the addition of Billy G will promote some kind of change to this attitude.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:28 am to
quote:

basically he's saying the Crowton has lots of different formations and looks but only a limited amount of plays out of each formation.


+1

and most plays were known by who was in the tailback spot
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39708 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:50 am to
quote:

basically he's saying the Crowton has lots of different formations and looks but only a limited amount of plays out of each formation.


BINGO +2

Might as well just told them what we were going to run, & that blocking scheme...we better have some more meat on the line for that to work.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39708 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 6:54 am to
and another note:

We were always reacting to the defense instead of making the D react to us.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 7:37 am to
quote:

We were always reacting to the defense instead of making the D react to us.


This is one of many things that is wrong with Crowton. He has this "Lets confuse the defense by running plays they will never expect" mentality. Every now and then a play will work, but for the most part it causes confusion on offense which probably explains why our players don't know where to line up and why our execution is poor. The best type of offense is the type of offense where the defense KNOWS what you're doing, but still can't stop you. With Crowton, everyone knows what he's doing except the players.
This post was edited on 3/4/10 at 7:39 am
Posted by C Lafong
Near Rocky and Carlos -In da parish
Member since Nov 2009
2010 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Pretty sure opposing coaches could figure this out as well. Lets hope the addition of Billy G will promote some kind of change to this attitude.



It might help if our quarterback could complete a pass down field.

Without better QB play, predictable is all there is.
Posted by dutchtowntiger100
dutchtown
Member since Aug 2009
2872 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 8:09 am to
They still won't let Guilbeau watch practice
Posted by Gumbeaux21
Bossier Parishioners
Member since Jan 2009
674 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 8:10 am to
its Guilbeau, who cares what he says anyway..he'll be back bashing the Tigers tomorrow..
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23050 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Crowton and Gonzales and Miles need to find out just a few things that suits this team best and work on it now.


I agree. We tried way tooo many different offensive sets/formations w/ limited success in all. I think part of our struggles is that the offensive guys weren't really comfortable in the schemes bc there were so many....
Posted by ChesterCopperpot
Fort Vegas
Member since Jan 2010
8 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 10:13 am to
Hurry up offense... Look to the sideline for direction... Fail! Crowton GFY!
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33382 posts
Posted on 3/4/10 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Without better QB play, predictable is all there is.

112th ranked offense for a reason
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