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re: LSU Strength and Conditioning Program...Is it doing the job?
Posted on 3/3/10 at 6:02 pm to OTIS2
Posted on 3/3/10 at 6:02 pm to OTIS2
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Our players not being in shape HAS NOT BEEN THE PROBLEM.
Seriously? There were plenty of starters who were gassed and cramping half way though the season this year. That's unacceptable.
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moffit has consistently worked on explosion techniques like power cleans, snatches, lifts like that.
I know, I have some friends on the team and did the workout from summer 08 this last summer. It is a very good, progressive, and explosive strength building program. It's not a bodybuilding or power lifting program; it's a football program. But there have been plenty of cases in the last two years where our talent coming in was as good as the other teams and we got destroyed both on the line and basically beaten up and down the field(Bama this year).
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if you notice around, LSU doesnt have as many injuries as most other universitys that work heavily on gaining bulk and heavy lifting...
Once again, Bama physically beat us this year. The game was the 10th week of the season and we had people cramp up, sprain ankles, break bones, everything. It's not because Bama's talent over the last 4 recruiting years was better than ours.
Recruiting Ranking(per rivals)
Year Alabama Lsu
2005 18 22
2006 11 7
2007 10 4
2008 1 11
Avg. 10 11
There wasn't a difference in talent or physical ability coming into these programs, but our team, after most starters had at least 2 years to condition and develop, were beaten senseless by Bama players. You can't argue that we were as physical as they were. We lost the game because of they imposed their will on each and every one of our players.
That being said, I still think most of the problems with the conditioning of the team are personal, and not related to Moffit directly. A lot of the LSU players I know are lazy and really don't work hard athletically, even compared to when they were in high school.
End rant, back to studying.
This post was edited on 3/3/10 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 3/3/10 at 6:51 pm to LSUtiger17
The lack of mental toughness with examples of bama imposing their will on us etc are by products of poor recruiting IMO. For the past few years we have let rivals tell us who the football players were instead of evaluating talent on a much deeper level like saban did. You have backed up your claim of having better recruiting classes than them with ratings from rivals. That is the equivalent of an NFL team deciding who to draft based solely on combine numbers. There is no drill to measure heart and toughness or competitive nature or work ethic. So, my claim is that bama obviously had better recruiting classes than us the past few years, despite what rivals said. Same as my belief the moffitt has a great offseason program, despite how many reps our players do at the combine.
Posted on 3/3/10 at 8:22 pm to LSUtiger17
Average LSU recruiting class ranking (2002-2009) according to Rivals (Note: This does not take into account players who transferred, quit, got kicked off, etc.): 8.0
Average LSU final ranking (2002-2009) according to the Coaches' Poll (this is assuming LSU finished #26 in years that they were not ranked, which is obviously not necessarily true but I don't feel like looking up actual votes): 11.9
Average LSU final ranking (2002-2009) according to the AP Poll (assuming LSU was #26 when not ranked): 12.1
These numbers give some idea about what kind of players LSU had coming in and how LSU finished over this period. Of course, players signed in 2009 have only played one year at most in the 2009, and players from earlier recruiting classes are included in the final ranking for 2002, etc. so take it for what it's worth.
The numbers are skewed to be a little low for Coaches' and AP poll final ranking because I automatically put LSU at 26 if they weren't ranked at the end of the year.
Average LSU final ranking (2002-2009) according to the Coaches' Poll (this is assuming LSU finished #26 in years that they were not ranked, which is obviously not necessarily true but I don't feel like looking up actual votes): 11.9
Average LSU final ranking (2002-2009) according to the AP Poll (assuming LSU was #26 when not ranked): 12.1
These numbers give some idea about what kind of players LSU had coming in and how LSU finished over this period. Of course, players signed in 2009 have only played one year at most in the 2009, and players from earlier recruiting classes are included in the final ranking for 2002, etc. so take it for what it's worth.
The numbers are skewed to be a little low for Coaches' and AP poll final ranking because I automatically put LSU at 26 if they weren't ranked at the end of the year.
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