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Is this a sign of our coaching failures?

Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:13 am
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:13 am
In regards to the NFL combine from DDon...

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With the NFL draft coming up next week, I think most of you will enjoy this article about the 329 players invited to the 2010 scouting combine which started yesterday. LSU, who finished 9-4 last season, had the most players invited (12) of any team and was one of four teams nationally that had 10 or more players invited.


That's the equivalent of having the most players offered scholarships from a high school and not winning district..IMHO

It just sucks knowing the level of LSU talent and that talent being recognized by the top levels of the game.

No wonder all the anylists talk about how players aren't "coached up" in Baton Rouge.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:15 am to
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:25 am to
I know, I know, but it just keeps gettin thrown in our faces at every turn except recruiting.

Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20467 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:27 am to
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I know, I know, but it just keeps gettin thrown in our faces


And thanks for throwing back into rotation on the Rant. It's probably been almost 48 hours since this was discussed.
Posted by Waldo
Hammond
Member since Feb 2010
35 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:27 am to
Well some team might as well have the most players at the combine. Why can't it be LSU?
Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1385 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:37 am to
This is further evidence of what many of us already knew, and some of us refuse to believe. The Sunshine Pumpers refuse to look at anything other than the overall W/L record.

Let's face it. LSU should be an elite football program. We have a tremendous talent base to work from in Louisiana, with no other real in state competition for that talent. We have first class facilities. We have a big home field edge due to the rabid crowd noise in Tiger Stadium. These factors all make up what should be the basis for an elite football program; however, this coaching staff in no way approaches elite status. In my estimation, it is, at best, an average staff.

LSU deserves better than an average staff. It all starts at the top. Miles is not good enough to coach this team. We deserve better.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:44 am to
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We deserve better FANS.


fixed FWIW


Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:50 am to
The most doesn't mean the best. We won't have a single 1st rounder. Maybe 1 or 2 in the 2nd.
Chad messed up. He won't go until the 3rd.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:56 am to
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The most doesn't mean the best. We won't have a single 1st rounder. Maybe 1 or 2 in the 2nd.


WTF? Coaching makes it 'the best" And the NFL realizes that they will be coached there and recognizes LSU has the most players that CAN BE COACHED into NFL talent!

I'd rather have over TEN NFL players on our team than have 2 first rounders any day!
This post was edited on 2/25/10 at 10:06 am
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7739 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:59 am to
quote:

We won't have a single 1st rounder


you just added fuel to the fire.
Posted by jrich11
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2010
993 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 10:21 am to
young qb play and young cb play left us with a bad season in 08.

had another first year starter this year, but older expercience cbs, defense was solid but the offense couldn't get out of its own way. and by the way, 9 wins and 2nd in the west is not that bad.

funny how les "cant develop talent," just has the most pro prospects at the combine. weird.
Posted by The Virginian
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2008
221 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 10:42 am to
Re: First Rounders

LINK
Posted by TigerJazz
McKinney, TX
Member since Jan 2008
68 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 10:43 am to

Who has the second most? USC and no one is talking about how Carroll is a bad coach.
Posted by TigerCorp
Member since Jun 2009
1058 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 10:53 am to
Pete did do a poor job coaching his team this past year.

No doubt

Miles et al had the ingredients for a 10+ win season...talent and veteran leadership...they just can't cook!!
Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1385 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:41 am to
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funny how les "cant develop talent," just has the most pro prospects at the combine. weird


The combine is about potential, period. Only those players who have real potential to play in the NFL are participating. Invitations are handed out based upon size, speed, aptitude and attitude --- not how they were coached/developed in college. The NFL can develop their own talent. That's the primary purpose of the practice squad.

All this shows you is that LSU had more NFL prospects on their roster than any other school in the country. The fact that those players only managed to win half of their conference games over the last two years can tell you any number of things, not the least of which is that the team probably underachieved. I happen to believe that an underachieving team is usually a poorly coached team. But, that's just me.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:42 am to
quote:

quote:


We deserve better FANS.




fixed FWIW


^ This.

Posted by Krypto
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Aug 2005
1476 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 2:01 pm to
So LJ, if you dont like the coaching staff, and its obvious you dont enjoy watching LSU play anymore, then why are you here other than to stir shite up? Leave all the "Sunshine Pumpers" alone and just go cheer on another team. Jump on someone elses bandwagon since you have evidently given up on ours.
Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1385 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

So LJ, if you dont like the coaching staff, and its obvious you dont enjoy watching LSU play anymore, then why are you here other than to stir shite up? Leave all the "Sunshine Pumpers" alone and just go cheer on another team. Jump on someone elses bandwagon since you have evidently given up on ours.


To the contrary, I haven't given up on this team. Those who blindly support Les Miles are the ones who have given up -- given up all hope of LSU ever returning to the elite program it was just a few short years ago. I'm not here to "stir up" anything. Pointing out that Les Miles is a mediocre coach is simply stating an opinion (and a widely held opinion, at that). I think it's pretty sad, that guys like you can't understand the difference between blind homerism and legitimate criticism. I can criticize and still cheer. I can criticize and still support. Some of the biggest LSU fans I know think that Les Miles is the wrong coach for LSU football. Doesn't make them any less of a fan.

Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
6536 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 4:15 pm to
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To the contrary, I haven't given up on this team. Those who blindly support Les Miles are the ones who have given up -- given up all hope of LSU ever returning to the elite program it was just a few short years ago. I'm not here to "stir up" anything. Pointing out that Les Miles is a mediocre coach is simply stating an opinion (and a widely held opinion, at that). I think it's pretty sad, that guys like you can't understand the difference between blind homerism and legitimate criticism. I can criticize and still cheer. I can criticize and still support. Some of the biggest LSU fans I know think that Les Miles is the wrong coach for LSU football. Doesn't make them any less of a fan.


+10000000000000000

oh and im not afraid to say it.....im a big lsu fan/supporter...but watching lsu play football these past two years have been more frustrating and boring than fun....i can deal with 9 win seasons...its the way they've played that bothers me
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 2/25/10 at 4:21 pm to
because 2-3 1st Round Pick from one school >> 11 2nd-4th rounds pick
This post was edited on 2/25/10 at 4:21 pm
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