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Chavis
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:10 pm
I've been hearing people complaining about Chavis and saying he's "average". The guy took our defense from nearly last in the SEC to I would think top 3 if not atleast top 5, IN HIS FIRST YEAR. There is a reason that one of UGA's first choices was Chavis. What's amazing is that LSU really doesn't fit Chavis' scheme. Chavis likes really talented LB's and bases his schemes off of them. LSU aside from the last two years has gotten its name off of Bo's forte, D-Line. Chavis has not become as popular as he is by not being "above average". Give him a year to get the talent he wants and he's going to be great.
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:12 pm to tigerbomb111
Too difficult to judge Chavis on one year without "his" personnel. I would give him a solid B for last season based on scoring defense alone. The scoring defense was THE difference between a 4 loss season and a losing season.
The "third and Chavis" thing was disappointing but I think much of that is based upon his rep. Will certainly give him another season before beginning to judge Chavis.
The "third and Chavis" thing was disappointing but I think much of that is based upon his rep. Will certainly give him another season before beginning to judge Chavis.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:13 pm to tigerbomb111
Yep. I think this season our defense will be even better.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:13 pm to tigerbomb111
Chavis is certainly not average. Anyone who says that is an idiot, just tune them out.
Chavis is a solid DC. Is he the best in the country? No. But you can rest assured you're going to have a well-coached defense that is always going to keep you in the game and occasionally win it for you.
Could we do better than Chavis? Probably. But we could certainly do a lot worse. There's faaaar more DCs out there worse than chavis than there are DCs that are better than Chavis. Truth be told, Chavis and Miles are very similar in this respect.
Chavis is a solid DC. Is he the best in the country? No. But you can rest assured you're going to have a well-coached defense that is always going to keep you in the game and occasionally win it for you.
Could we do better than Chavis? Probably. But we could certainly do a lot worse. There's faaaar more DCs out there worse than chavis than there are DCs that are better than Chavis. Truth be told, Chavis and Miles are very similar in this respect.
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:13 pm to tigerbomb111
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:30 pm to tigerbomb111
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Chavis
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:31 pm to JPLSU1981
Everyone thinks Monte Kiffen is a defensive genius yet Chavis' 2008 Vol defense better than Monte's 2009 Vol D, and the Chief had to do it without any help from the Vol offense. UT finished dead last in the SEC in time of possession in 2008, and 4th in 2009.
To add insult to injury, the Chief's 2009 LSU defense, which finished 11th in scoring defense in 2008, finshed third in 2009, which was also better than Monte's D.
Chief vs Monte
Hail to the Chief!
To add insult to injury, the Chief's 2009 LSU defense, which finished 11th in scoring defense in 2008, finshed third in 2009, which was also better than Monte's D.
Chief vs Monte
Hail to the Chief!
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:40 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
LSU 2008 LSU 2009
Scoring Defense 24.15 16
Total Defense 325.54 326.58
Rush Defense 110.15 142.92
Pass Defense 215.38 192.42
Sacks / game 2.15 1.67
Interceptions (Season) 8 13
3rd Down Conversions 31.15 36.76
The main difference (and arguably the biggest) is ppg allowed. But the total ypg allowed are the same. We also got less sacks (hard to believe) and were worse on 3rd down conversions allowed. Having those extra possessions from the added interceptions helps. I just don't like his style. When he blitzes, he gets burnt. When he plays base, people go up and down the field on us. If the front 4 can get pressure alone, then we will have a good/great defense, if not, it will be the same as the last two years.
Scoring Defense 24.15 16
Total Defense 325.54 326.58
Rush Defense 110.15 142.92
Pass Defense 215.38 192.42
Sacks / game 2.15 1.67
Interceptions (Season) 8 13
3rd Down Conversions 31.15 36.76
The main difference (and arguably the biggest) is ppg allowed. But the total ypg allowed are the same. We also got less sacks (hard to believe) and were worse on 3rd down conversions allowed. Having those extra possessions from the added interceptions helps. I just don't like his style. When he blitzes, he gets burnt. When he plays base, people go up and down the field on us. If the front 4 can get pressure alone, then we will have a good/great defense, if not, it will be the same as the last two years.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:45 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
ha, Tenn had the same amount of weak sacks that we did this year? in our worst sack probably ever. I love it
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:52 pm to tigerbomb111
You have to remember there are a lot of Rantards on here.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:55 pm to Peachtree Tiger
You also have to remember this was the Chief's first year on the job. I like the fact that in every year but one as a DC, his defense held the opposition to under 20 points for the season.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:42 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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UT finished dead last in the SEC in time of possession in 2008, and 4th in 2009.
Maybe I'm being way too analytical here, but one of LSU's main issues this year was the number of plays we were getting on O vs the number of plays our opponent was getting on O... we were averaging about 45ish snaps a game whereas our opponents were getting 65-70 if not more.
It was a combination of two things...1) our offense sucked and was inconsistent...2) our defense's inability to get off the field at times
Although I think the bulk of the blame lies on the offensive side of the ball, when you just posted that about Tennessee's TOP I can't help but wonder how much the Chavis D has to do with the opponent always getting more time on O (and hence more offensive plays) than us.
Anyway, I think Chavis is solid, as I said earlier. He definitely has his flaws, but I feel comfortable with him as DC. But that was troubling to me this year, because it's hard to put a gameplan together when you're only getting 45 offensive snaps, and part of the responsibility lies on the defensive side of the ball. Stop them, stop them quick, and get the ball back to our offense.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:50 pm to JPLSU1981
I know! Chavis is a great defense Cordinator!! 
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:08 am to THATLSUBOY
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I know! Chavis is a great defense Cordinator!!
Good god you people have low expectations......to call him great is idiotic at best. Teams went right up and down the field on us this year, we didn't wreak havoc on the quarterbacks, and barely caused any turnovers. Have we gone this far down as a program that this qualifies as a stellar year? Did yall somehow miss in the Florida game and how they went up and down the field on us all night long, we intercepted 1 ball and they punted a grand total of 1 time.
I don't expect the 85 Bears defense, but I do expect one that can at least hold Louisiana Tech to single digits.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:09 am to tigerbomb111
Chavis will be a consistent DC. But his bend but dont break style needs an offense that can put up points so that the D is not on the field all the time. Hopefully our offense is better next season and his D will have even better stats.
From that blog
From that blog
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2005 - UT held Meyer's offense 12.58 points below their scoring average. The Gator offense only had 247 total yards including 1.8 yards per carry on the ground. Chavis' D held them to 1 TD.
2006 - UT held Meyer's offense 7.7 points below their average. They only allowed 320 yards of total offense which was well below UF's total. They lost the game because they turned it over twice and because Brandon James averaged 16.3 yards per punt return including a pivotal 35 yard return that set up a huge TD.
2007 - Tennessee's defense stunk in '07. You can't sugar coat anything that happened that season defensively nor can you sugarcoat the 59 points allowed.
2008 - Held UF's offense to 13.6 points below their average for the season. Only surrendered 2 offensive TDs to the Gators. The other points came off FGs and a Brandon James 78 yard punt return for TD. Held the Gators to 243 yards of total offense which was 202 yards below their season average. No other coaching staff got close to that sort of results against the Gator Offense including Ole Miss who beat them.
2009 at LSU - LSU Defense held the Gators to 21 points below their season average. Held them to one offensive touchdown. Only Bama looked better against UF's offense. And LSU doesn't have Bama's defensive talent and is in Year 1 of this system.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:11 am to TJG210
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Good god you people have low expectations......to call him great is idiotic at best. Teams went right up and down the field on us this year, we didn't wreak havoc on the quarterbacks, and barely caused any turnovers. Have we gone this far down as a program that this qualifies as a stellar year? Did yall somehow miss in the Florida game and how they went up and down the field on us all night long, we intercepted 1 ball and they punted a grand total of 1 time.
I don't expect the 85 Bears defense, but I do expect one that can at least hold Louisiana Tech to single digits.
Amen!!!
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:16 am to TJG210
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Good god you people have low expectations......to call him great is idiotic at best. Teams went right up and down the field on us this year, we didn't wreak havoc on the quarterbacks, and barely caused any turnovers
Well, we improved from last year. That's the first thing to keep in mind. Also, he pretty much had no pass rush from the d-line, which hurt us. Our defense forced a fair amount of turnovers. The only time I ever was displeased with Chavis was when he would go into soft zone coverage late against Arky and Penn State.
That being said, he improved our defense, and as long as it continues to improve, we will have a good team. Unlike his offensive counterpart on this team, he makes players better. Did no one see the huge improvement in our LBer play?
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:19 am to JPLSU1981
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Chavis is a solid DC. Is he the best in the country? No.
While he doesn't have "best" credentials, I would argue that he's "one of the best", if you take all those head coaches who coordinate their own defenses (*cough*, Saban, *cough*). What he can certainly claim to be "one of the best" is LB coach. That was a big step up for LSU's defense from 2008 to 2009.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:25 am to tigerbomb111
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I've been hearing people complaining about Chavis and saying he's "average"
That "average" stuff is little more that sports forum BS. The man had some fine D's at Tennessee. Even his last year with the Vols had had his D ranked in the top 5 in the nation as I recall and most of his D's at Tenn were ranked in the Top 3 in the SEC most years.
One year at LSU is had to judge, but our scoring D, which is the most important to me, improved pretty good as did our t/o margin. Of course, the t/o margin is not all with the D.
We will have to see what his future holds, but right now I'm think our D is in good hands.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:03 am to Lonnie4LSU
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That "average" stuff is little more that sports forum BS. The man had some fine D's at Tennessee. Even his last year with the Vols had had his D ranked in the top 5 in the nation as I recall and most of his D's at Tenn were ranked in the Top 3 in the SEC most years.
Statistics are for chumps........how many times did he bring the hardware home in Tennesssee?
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That being said, he improved our defense, and as long as it continues to improve, we will have a good team.
Almost any competent defensive coordinator could have improved our D from the previous year. As bad as peveto and mallory were, did you not realize alot of points we gave up two years ago was due to short fields set up by interceptions?
As far, as the arguement of who could have we gotten that's any better? There are probably a bunch of talented assistant coaches around the country who are more than qualified to run a defense, and all they need is a chance. As a head coach it's Miles job to go out and find some of those guys, not take the easy way out by overpaying for the biggest name currently out there.
FWIW, the 3 man d-line that we played against Arkansas and Penn St. was downright putrid, especially given that Arkansas absolutely chewed us up when we did that. We couldn't get to the damn quarterback rushing 4, so we're just going to surrender and let the QB have all day?
This post was edited on 2/4/10 at 9:08 am
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