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re: Brady vs. Brees, stats don't lie.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 2:56 pm to southernelite
Posted on 12/18/09 at 2:56 pm to southernelite
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Also, take out 2007, and I think Brees has a pretty clear advantage, albeit slight.
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Posted on 12/18/09 at 2:57 pm to TravelingTiger55
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3 Super Bowl wins > 0 Super Bowl wins
This arguement is so flawed. So I guess Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino? Robert Horry > Karl Malone? I'm not arguing Brees over Brady but simply comparing championships can be very deceiving.
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:06 pm to Stromile Swift
whenever the argument is so close, I think you can use that fact as a bit of a tiebreaker.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:09 pm to BayouBengals03
Brees is better now, thats all I care about
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:22 pm to DollaChoppa
What amazes me about Brady is that he has been extremely consistent. He's never had a bad year. Always good to great. Pretty amazing.
After what he is doing this year and three years ago, I think it is safe to assume that Brady would be dominating the stats had he not been hurt.
After what he is doing this year and three years ago, I think it is safe to assume that Brady would be dominating the stats had he not been hurt.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:26 pm to C
And your stats are wrong, Brady is averaging 23.5 tds a year, despite being out all last year.
ETA: Ok I see you counted Brady's rookie year when he threw the ball a handful of times. Brady is clearly better when you leave out the years he didn't play a significant amount of time.
ETA: Ok I see you counted Brady's rookie year when he threw the ball a handful of times. Brady is clearly better when you leave out the years he didn't play a significant amount of time.
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:37 pm to C
QB rating takes all of those stats into consideration. Brees is better by 6 points.
Brees > Brady
Brees > Brady
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:39 pm to southernelite
Brady has had a better career, but Brees is currently better. Seems pretty cut and dry to me
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:42 pm to SJS Eagle 85
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QB rating takes all of those stats into consideration.
Its not a true QB rating, its a yearly aveage counting Brady's 1st year when he threw a few passes and had a 40 QB rating the same as any other year in his career. He's fricking with the stats to make Brees look better. They are both great QBs, but Brady is clearly better. Someone do a QB rating of their final stats for me.
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:44 pm to C
Brady has a career 93.2
Brees 91.8
/thread
Brees 91.8
/thread
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:47 pm to C
Brees will change that over the next 5 years
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:51 pm to musick
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While Colston is great and Meachem is emerging this year, I really don't think the saints have had a #1 receiver since Brees has been here.
don't kid yourself Colston is the #1 receiver
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:52 pm to DollaChoppa
I think you should remove 2008 from your averages. Seems like Brady averages over 27 TDs and over 3,700 per year when you discount his 1 half of football in your average. Brady has 8 years, Brees 9.
Brees playing better post-Brady knee but Brady better before not including the championships.
Happy with our guy but would equally as thrilled to have the other.
Brees playing better post-Brady knee but Brady better before not including the championships.
Happy with our guy but would equally as thrilled to have the other.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:53 pm to DollaChoppa
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Brees will change that over the next 5 years
haha, yeah well here is to predicting the future
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:55 pm to southernelite
Brees is better. No question.
Brady has been better before. No question.
Brady has been better before. No question.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:56 pm to Sammobile
Exactly, Colston is Brees' top guy, and Brady has fricking Randy Moss, one of the best WRs of all time
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:59 pm to TravelingTiger55
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3 Super Bowl wins > 0 Super Bowl wins
Patriots organization >>>>>> Saints and Chargers organizations
The "he has championships" argument is simplistic and dumb, especially in football.
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 4:01 pm to The Easter Bunny
If I were drafting knowing what I know today, I choose Brady in 2000 over Brees no question.
If I were trying to make a trade today I would probably take Brees considering Brady is coming off injury.
If I were trying to make a trade today I would probably take Brees considering Brady is coming off injury.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 4:44 pm to mattz1122
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The "he has championships" argument is simplistic and dumb, especially in football.
Not when it's 3, and when it's used when 2 players are so close otherwise. You want to talk about simplistic and dum?b--"So, Dilfer > Marino?" is pretty much the absolute epitome of that.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 4:48 pm to C
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He's fricking with the stats to make Brees look better
Not really, I could care less either way honestly, I think they are both decent quarterbacks, and you could take out any number of years for the both of them, and it'll make one look better than the other. I'm just trying to spark decent debate here.
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