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re: Consider Paul Hornung and Gale Sayers

Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:30 pm to
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You compare players to other players in their own era, not to players in other eras.


You mean when Hornung and Sayers ran in the run first/pass second NFL of the 60's with 240 pound linemen and 5.0 dbs

I'm still waiting for you and Dukkev to enlighten me
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204131 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:48 pm to
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You mean when Hornung and Sayers ran in the run first/pass second NFL of the 60's with 240 pound linemen and 5.0 dbs

I'm still waiting for you and Dukkev to enlighten me


I will!! Sayers was a BEAST when he played. He was SO much better than the others players around him it was not even FUNNY. KINDA LIKE JIM BROWN. Hourning was good but NOT in Sayers class.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59172 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:01 pm to
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I'm still waiting for you and Dukkev to enlighten me


you can start with they played fewer games and had different rules that favored the defense. It was different era, where were those ranked in terms of all time leaders when they retired?

Also once upon a time, people didn't judge individual players based on team accomplishments only the way some do today. They used to consider it a shame that great players like. Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Gayle Sayers, Fran Tarenton etc where never on championship teams. They didn't hold it against those guys.
Posted by jrowla2
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4087 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

You compare players to other players in their own era, not to players in other eras.



You mean when Hornung and Sayers ran in the run first/pass second NFL of the 60's with 240 pound linemen and 5.0 dbs

I'm still waiting for you and Dukkev to enlighten me



its impossible to compare players of today with those of the past because there are so many different circumstances

I think we all know that todays athlete is better but we cant retroactively go back and start taking people out of the hall of fame b/c they wouldnt be good today or their numbers are shite compared to todays players.
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