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re: B. Gradkowski and the Raiders
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:03 am to mattz1122
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:03 am to mattz1122
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Awesome. And expected.
Glad someone enjoyed it.
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There are so many things wrong with this post, I don't know where to start. People whose only argument revolves around cliched adjectives (like moxie) usually have no argument at all and little knowledge of football altogether.
I'll give you time to point things out. To be fair, I took quite a while typing my post. I understand you disagree with me in terms of just about everything, but to my credit, I backed nearly everything up with facts. So I can conclude that most of what you said has little or no merit at all. Nothing personal.
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And aside from the racial stereotypes
I fail to see any racial stereotypes. Can you point those out for me?
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many of the strengths that you listed for Flynn were actually his weaknesses.
Pretty sure I would have listed them under weaknesses then. Just saying.
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Russell was also more of a pocket passer than Flynn, and he rarely ran.
Okay, you might be partially correct here. I apologize.
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I mean Jesus Christ, do you have any idea what you're talking about?
I do in fact have an idea of what I'm talking about, seeing as how I am the one talking about what I'm talking about. I don't see where you are going with this?
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Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:13 am to hi2ulol
Great points hi2u. Of course everything you posted is total crap even though you had stats and facts to back it up...right. Someone's just mad they're wrong 
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:15 am to LSUboi242
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even though you had stats and facts to back it up
Am I living in Bizarro World? Is somebody playing a joke on me?
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:15 am to LSUboi242
quote:so his idiotic and slanted list of his PERSONAL OPINIONS (which are so off its not even funny, otherwise matty flynn wouldve been a first round pick) on the two are facts? the ACTUAL STATS were listed in JRs favor and he wanted those thrown out so he could give us his stupid moxie speech.
Of course everything you posted is total crap even though you had stats and facts to back it up...right. Someone's just mad they're wrong
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:16 am to LSUboi242
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Great points hi2u.
I appreciate it.
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Of course everything you posted is total crap even though you had stats and facts to back it up...right. Someone's just mad they're wrong
I chuckled.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:16 am to Enrique
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(which are so off its not even funny, otherwise matty flynn wouldve been a first round pick
Matt Flynn would have been a better first round pick than JR, and there's no denying that.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:18 am to mattz1122
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Am I living in Bizarro World? Is somebody playing a joke on me?
Only you know where you live, mattz1122. As far as playing jokes...this is a serious discussion.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:19 am to hi2ulol
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Jamarcus Russell
Strengths
Size
Strength
Throws a spiral
Weaknesses
Moxie yeah, he never led any comebacks either
Intelligence says who? you
Doesn't throw the ball away
Time management
Stares down receivers flynn was about as good as jarret lee in this respect
Throws into double coverage
Throws into triple coverage
Inarticulate we get it, you think hes dumb
Painfully slow had plenty of long scrambles
Attempts to run too frequently
Unable to read defenses
Ineptthere u go again
Does not know hot to audible
Has trouble leading receivers
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:21 am to hi2ulol
considering all the great intangibles and favre-like qualities flynn brought to the table, why are his stats worse? guess that moxie is a bunch of horseshite.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:21 am to Enrique
Keep pimping his stats, bro. They didn't win him a NC and they surely didn't make him a good NFL QB.
You realize the day Flynn leaves GB he's going to get a starting job somewhere and succeed, right?
You realize the day Flynn leaves GB he's going to get a starting job somewhere and succeed, right?
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 2:22 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:23 am to hi2ulol
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You're seriously going to go on passing yards, completion percentage, touchdowns, and interceptions to rate one quarterback's worth over another? And you say my logic is "poor"?
right, its logically better to compare players based on moxie. that said, i believe that jarret lee is actually a better qb than colt mccoy. his stats suck, but that doesnt matter, because he has more moxie and is probably more articulate than colt.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:26 am to Enrique
Uh, Colt McCoy is the winningest QB in CFB history. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about and frankly your JR opinion is null and void.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:29 am to Enrique
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so his idiotic and slanted list of his PERSONAL OPINIONS (which are so off its not even funny, otherwise matty flynn wouldve been a first round pick)
While my journal is indeed composed of my opinions, I can assure you each opinion is comprised of hours upon hours of deep intellectual thoughts of which I have backed up with facts, creating in essence, facts.
I realize Matt Flynn was not chosen in the first round. Those are just the facts. Just because Russell was chosen higher than Flynn is simply irrelevant. This is because sometimes the most valuable players are overlooked.
If you don't believe me, just look at Marcus Colston. Need I say more? Of course not.
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the ACTUAL STATS were listed in JRs favor and he wanted those thrown out so he could give us his stupid moxie speech.
That could not be farther from the truth. If the "ACTUAL STATS" were listed in Russell's favor, I would have spoken more highly of him. You cant deny Flynn's moxie, I cited professionals who agree with me wholeheartedly.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:34 am to Enrique
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the great intangibles and favre-like qualities flynn brought to the table
I can agree with that
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considering all, why are his stats worse?
If you read my original post and comprehended most of it, you probably understood I'm looking past all these conformist stats we've all been brainwashed by, and looking deeper, into what really separates a quarterback from the rest, moxie.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:38 am to Enrique
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its logically better to compare players based on moxie.
I agree 100%.
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i believe that jarret lee is actually a better qb than colt mccoy.
If you're talking about NFL potential, I probably agree. As of now, Lee hasn't shown much of anything. I know he has a ton of talent, though.
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but that doesnt matter, because he has more moxie and is probably more articulate than colt.
I understand you don't have a strong grasp on moxie and that's understandable. I can tell you that Lee does not have more moxie than Colt. As far as being more articulate, it's debatable.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:41 am to hi2ulol
And let me mention that I think you all will see a brand new Jarret Lee, if he does in fact transfer. I see it being much like Brad Lidge, when he made his glorious return with the Phillies after a dismal year with the Astros. Lee needs a new surrounding with new people who utilize his skills effectively.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 7:21 pm to hi2ulol
This is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 7:23 pm to Ninja Looter
What are the chances LSUboi and hi2ulol are the same person?
Posted on 12/7/09 at 7:28 pm to mattz1122
was thinking that 
Posted on 12/7/09 at 7:30 pm to mattz1122
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What are the chances LSUboi and hi2ulol are the same person?
I think it's evident we aren't the same person.
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