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Discipline and Efficiency were lost in 2009

Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:39 am
Posted by TexasSinger
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:39 am
Give Miles a month of game preparation to face the opposition, and we all know the dominating outcomes. Give Miles 20 hours for game week preparation, and results are not so flattering. Why can't Miles prepare his coaches and players to perform with discipline and superb efficiency within a week's time? Too much chaos week in and week out. Can't get plays called in time. Can't substitute correctly. Can't line up in the right formation. Discipline and efficiency are two factors that stand out to me and define the 2009 season.
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 11:40 am
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:40 am to
Too bad college football isn't year round, 1 game a month.
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:41 am to
Dr.

Great post. This is the biggest thing that I have a problem with. If Les were to fix this (easier said than done), he would become elite in my mind.

It's an entirely different team when bowl games come up.
Posted by LSU Fan Stuck in MS
Madison, MS
Member since Oct 2007
254 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:42 am to
I've felt like offensively we have looked confused all year. Personally I want to know what he says at halftime that makes us come out and stink it up in the third quarter. The team comes out completely flat.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:46 am to
I'm sure I'm not the only one who was surprised at how good we looked against GT last year. But Penn St. (assuming we play them) is a better team than the 2008 Jackets, and we'll get a real test of how good and prepared we are when we meet them. No 38-3 blow out this year (although I'd be most happy if we did).

Put it this way: if we play great football, especially on offense, this will be Miles' second-best achievement in LSU bowl play, behind the 2007 NC.
Posted by Good Times
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Member since Nov 2007
24538 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:48 am to
How much of our bowl dominance is coaching? Not a Miles bash, he deserves credit, but other factors could contribute. Recovery from brutal SEC games, OOC opponents = easier wins. Our speed seems a tick faster in bowls. We seem to out physical the opponent as well.

As far as 2009 season, the coaches are the same, and the offense is the same, sooooo......
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 11:53 am
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:51 am to
Good Times

That is very true. But we just seem to play with an ease and not scared. We let it all out there and play relaxed.
Posted by Good Times
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:54 am to
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But we just seem to play with an ease and not scared. We let it all out there and play relaxed.



Agree.
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:56 am to
You know what I just thought of as well to further support that. Our longest throws have been in bowl games. Peach bowl with Flynn and Jefferson. Jefferson's was called back but those are two of our longest throws of each respective season. Both in bowl games. Kind of speaks to the relaxed nature we were talking about.
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 11:57 am
Posted by TexasSinger
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:58 am to
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But we just seem to play with an ease and not scared. We let it all out there and play relaxed.


Maybe because the only thing that's on the line is a victory in that game. There's not another game after it. There's not an SEC West title on the line. There's not a SECCG on the line. There's nothing following it. Not a SEC Championship on the line. Just a Capitol One, Chick-fil-A, Sugar, etc bowl game victory. Not as much pressure. That's another reason why a playoff system is better. So much more on the line in a playoff game than some Joe Shmo Blender Bowl game.
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24538 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:00 pm to
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Maybe because the only thing that's on the line is a victory in that game. There's not another game after it. There's not an SEC West title on the line. There's not a SECCG on the line. There's nothing following it. Not a SEC Championship on the line. Just a Capitol One, Chick-fil-A, Sugar, etc bowl game victory. Not as much pressure.



Almost posted this same thought, so obviously I agree w/u.
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:01 pm to
Sure. But what you want to instill in your players is to play relaxed in every game. You don't achieve anything playing scared and "not to lose." If someone out executes you then hats off to them. But don't beat yourself and play every game like its the last one.

Like a certain coach says, the next game is always your most important one.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:01 pm to
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How much of our bowl dominance is coaching? Not a Miles bash, he deserves credit, but other factors could contribute. Recovery from brutal SEC games, OOC opponents = easier wins. Our speed seems a tick faster in bowls. We seem to out physical the opponent as well.


most of this has to do with the amount of time available. during the year you've only got a few days to heal, fix last weeks mistakes, get replacements for any injured players ready, game-plan for the next opponent, etc.

to the original point, some coaches take the view that "you may beat us because you're better than us, but you're not going to beat us because we make fundamental mistakes", while others (Miles included) focus more on making execution better and better each week. The problem is, you never really know how much better execution can get, and if you're still making fundamental mistakes, you're going to get beat in games you shouldn't.

Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:04 pm to
Miles needs to be a better leader,but,the same needs to be said about Jefferson.Miles has him in that position and he needs to take charge when on the field of play.Hopefully in 2010 he will become the leader that a QB should be on offense.
Posted by TexasSinger
Front Row
Member since Feb 2006
4522 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:18 pm to
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Miles needs to be a better leader,but,the same needs to be said about Jefferson.Miles has him in that position and he needs to take charge when on the field of play.Hopefully in 2010 he will become the leader that a QB should be on offense.


Agree. Seems we really didn't know how much Miles and his staff relied and depended on Flynn during the 2007 season. After 2008 and 2009 seasons, I can see they were spoiled a bit with Flynn's ability. Still though, no excuse to perform like they did this year. I wore out the phrase "We are beating ourselves". If you have to beat yourselves, the SEC refs, and the other team, well, good luck with that one.
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 12:20 pm
Posted by oldfan
houma,la
Member since Dec 2008
225 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:35 pm to
I still say its the coaching.When is the last time you saw a player (jj) look so confused at the end of a season? Run a play with ten players at the end of the year? Have two all american recievers in the same spot and both open? Play a mediocre game untill you need to win it with plays and execution? Two quarterbacks out of high school rated very high... what happened to thier ability ? we need a new offencive coach who will teach them how to win.
Why would Memphis take porter instead of crowten ? A team has to be molded into winners ... defence and offence.... can our coaches do this?
Posted by Krypto
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Aug 2005
1476 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:44 pm to
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Why would Memphis take porter instead of crowten


Because Crowton has proved he isn't a head coach, and most that have watched know that his schemes are getting old.

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Two quarterbacks out of high school rated very high... what happened to thier ability


They made it to college football, thats what happened to their ability. If anyone thinks that just because a kid is a 5* recruit out of high school that means he will be a superstar in college, you are sadly mistaken. Make a list of all the 5* recruits in say 2004 and look up their stats. I promise you will find that the vast majority of them never made it big. Its the nature of the beast.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 12:55 pm to
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Joe Shmo Blender Bowl game


i believe it was the Pouland Weedeater bowl in shreveport
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 1:08 pm to
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Maybe because the only thing that's on the line is a victory in that game. There's not another game after it. There's not an SEC West title on the line. There's not a SECCG on the line. There's nothing following it. Not a SEC Championship on the line. Just a Capitol One, Chick-fil-A, Sugar, etc bowl game victory. Not as much pressure. That's another reason why a playoff system is better. So much more on the line in a playoff game than some Joe Shmo Blender Bowl game.


What about the National Championship game?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86618 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 1:11 pm to
How many cars did we beat up this season?
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