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Miles will be our coach for a few more years. And he laughs

Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:33 am
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81754 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:33 am
at your protesting.

18 million talks. bullshite walks.

Short of Miles resigning on his own, Miles will be our head coach for a few more years. There won't be a change made until the cost of retaining him outweighs the cost of firing him. Thank Skip.

There's nothing you can do about it.

No Brian Kelly
No Saban
No Spurrier
No Gruden
No Del Rio


It is all Miles.
Only Miles.

Whether you like it or not.

Miles' lawyers don't care what you think.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:34 am to
It's like having Bobby Bowden without all the past glory.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56063 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:38 am to
Miles strikes me as a man with class and would not enforce the full brunt of the contract...something reasonable would be worked out..

Isn't the buyout piece to protect LSU if he leaves for another job? If he get fired, then it seems it's would be much less than 18 million
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4927 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:39 am to
I continue to doubt that we would have to pay the $18 million.

Negotiated settlement. Still pricey, but doable.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:40 am to
Any coach can be fired. To say a coach is unfirable because of 18 million is dumb. Its a lot of money but not as much as you think.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:41 am to
I still don't think money is the issue. It's precedent and LSU's image as a blood thirsty employer.
Posted by LittleDTO
Spring Hill
Member since Nov 2009
27 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:43 am to
quote:

Miles strikes me as a man with class and would not enforce the full brunt of the contract...something reasonable would be worked out.


Yeah, he will say "Thanks for firing me and I'll just take just half of the buyout too."

Would YOU do that to an employer who fired you?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87770 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:45 am to
quote:

I still don't think money is the issue. It's precedent and LSU's image as a blood thirsty employer.


make a DVD of the Mississippi Meltdown and send it to prospective coaches. They will understand I promise.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:46 am to
Ole Miss is one loss. He's scraped through far too many times to establish a consistent pattern of incompetence. It's there, we all know it, but it isn't easy to prove.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56063 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:47 am to
quote:

Yeah, he will say "Thanks for firing me and I'll just take just half of the buyout too."

Would YOU do that to an employer who fired you?


Can you quote the contract conditions if Miles is fired in the event he lost the confidence of LSU nation?
Posted by gumpandgatorgumbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
366 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:48 am to
Imagine having to work and live in a place where thousands and thousands of people do not accept you. Would you want to do it. Even if I was making 4 million a year, I would be depressed at that. Not to mention his wife and children having to listen to all the bashing of their daddy and husband. He will find somwhere to coach where people accept him and will gladly take him with his record.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26705 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:48 am to
The reason Miles won't be fired is because of his record, not because of the money. If Alleva/boosters wanted him gone badly enough, the buyout arbitration money (somewhere around $10 million I would guess) could be raised.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:50 am to
quote:

Imagine having to work and live in a place where thousands and thousands of people do not accept you. Would you want to do it. Even if I was making 4 million a year, I would be depressed at that. Not to mention his wife and children having to listen to all the bashing of their daddy and husband. He will find somwhere to coach where people accept him and will gladly take him with his record.


Fair point. But my question is, how long do I have to work there? If you tell me 2 yrs before I get a fat buyout, then atleast I'll try and stick it out.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26705 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:50 am to
quote:

Imagine having to work and live in a place where thousands and thousands of people do not accept you. Would you want to do it. Even if I was making 4 million a year, I would be depressed at that. Not to mention his wife and children having to listen to all the bashing of their daddy and husband. He will find somwhere to coach where people accept him and will gladly take him with his record.


From a personal standpoint I agree. I would never want a job like that with a family, even for 4 million a year. From a professional standpoint, the pressure comes with the nature of the business, and you are compensated for it.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56063 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:52 am to
one LSU premuim board moderator said today that this game is very important to Miles future.. per some big LSU contributor, or person of influence..tifwiw

How the players play is key, not so much victory, is what I got from the post
Posted by LittleDTO
Spring Hill
Member since Nov 2009
27 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:56 am to
quote:

Can you quote the contract conditions if Miles is fired in the event he lost the confidence of LSU nation?


Im saying that he isnt going to give LSU a discount on his buyout just because he is a nice guy. This is his job and it is a business.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56063 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:02 am to
quote:

Im saying that he isn't going to give LSU a discount on his buyout just because he is a nice guy. This is his job and it is a business.


well, I agree, but I am suggesting we really don't know the legal jargon or the details of the contract if he is fired...

I think he would negotiate something less than 18m if it was 18 mil, if it meant he would booed at every corner of Louisiana..I mean the man has some character...he would do the right thing...I promise you he would..
Posted by LittleDTO
Spring Hill
Member since Nov 2009
27 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:09 am to
quote:

well, I agree, but I am suggesting we really don't know the legal jargon or the details of the contract if he is fired... I think he would negotiate something less than 18m if it was 18 mil, if it meant he would booed at every corner of Louisiana..I mean the man has some character...he would do the right thing...I promise you he would..


The buyout is there for the coaches protection. The school compensation is there for LSU's protection. He would be a terrible business man if he didn't take all of his cash and there wouldn't be any point in making the buyout dollar figure what it is.

I don't know if there is a right or wrong thing here. It is just business.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:00 am to
It is sad to say, but i think you are right. We may not beat bama or ole miss or R kansas or florida for the next few years. By then the program may back slide so far that we could go back to the curly and Gerry days.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 5:45 am to
quote:

Short of Miles resigning on his own, Miles will be our head coach for a few more years. There won't be a change made until the cost of retaining him outweighs the cost of firing him.


I agree with you for the most part. I don't see him leaving. My question is when does this moment take place? I see him to continue to struggle versus the SEC West over the next 2 years after this season. He will do enough to keep people on board like those happy with 7-8 in the SEC or an 8-5 season.
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