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I'm still on the fence about Miles
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:14 pm
I think he is a better coach/recruiter than most realize. We just witnessed his darkest hour and low point during his career at LSU and I really don't think it'll happen again. Sometimes, people need to screw up really bad to "wake them up" and get back in the mix of things. This isn't 2007 anymore and I think he has now realized this. I think we need to cut ties with Crowton and Studrawa and build from there. We are a few offensive coaches and a solid, more experience offensive line/Jordan Jefferson to get back where we want to be. Even if we would have beaten Ole Miss (who really outplayed us the whole game), we still aren't "SEC Championship/BCS Championship caliber" yet. I still have some faith in Miles if he makes the appropriate changes over the off season and I think he will.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 11:16 pm
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:16 pm to LSUbase13
What has happened during the past two seasons that allows you to still have faith in Miles?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:17 pm to LSUbase13
Well said.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:17 pm to OFWHAP
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What has happened during the past two seasons that allows you to still have faith in Miles?
Last season we had a very problematic, inexperienced quarterback. No one thought that Lee/Hatch/Jefferson was going to play. We had horrid co-defensive coordinators. Miles has fixed that and the defense has improved light years from 2008 to 2009. I am hoping he can and will do the same with the offense.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:17 pm to LSUbase13
Hope you have a good priest because your faith will be challenged.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:18 pm to OFWHAP
Russell Shepard
nm.
nm.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:20 pm to waldorftiger
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Well said.
People say, Fire Miles this and that and I honestly can't blame them. Hell, I have said similar things following the Ole Miss game. That said, the guy still isn't that bad of a coach. Hell, his record proves it. We have to remember that he is surrounded by some of the best coaches in the country (SEC opponets coaches) and he still has moderate success against them. He recruits extremly well (and I don't care what yall say, as long as one recruits well, you'll have a really solid team). He just needs to fix the offense, let Jefferson get one more offseason under his belt and we'll be good to go. Look at all the talent UF is losing. Alabama is coming to Tiger Stadium next year, etc. Next year we'll be much improved.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:21 pm to waldorftiger
Oxford '09.
n/m
n/m
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:21 pm to LSUbase13
I don't know. I have always defended him and now I am starting to see what people have been saying about him.
IMO, I think the best way to sum up Les Miles at LSU is that he has enough talent to get him out of shitty situations. Chad Jones got him out of MSU, Holliday got him out of Georgia, etc.
If Miles was a lawyer for example, he would know his shite but his organization skills will eventually catch up with him and cost him a case here and there eventually giving him a bad rep which will hurt his business.
IMO, I think the best way to sum up Les Miles at LSU is that he has enough talent to get him out of shitty situations. Chad Jones got him out of MSU, Holliday got him out of Georgia, etc.
If Miles was a lawyer for example, he would know his shite but his organization skills will eventually catch up with him and cost him a case here and there eventually giving him a bad rep which will hurt his business.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:23 pm to LSUbase13
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I'm still on the fence about MilesI think he is a better coach/recruiter than most realize. We just witnessed his darkest hour and low point during his career at LSU and I really don't think it'll happen again. Sometimes, people need to screw up really bad to "wake them up" and get back in the mix of things. This isn't 2007 anymore and I think he has now realized this. I think we need to cut ties with Crowton and Studrawa and build from there. We are a few offensive coaches and a solid, more experience offensive line/Jordan Jefferson to get back where we want to be. Even if we would have beaten Ole Miss (who really outplayed us the whole game), we still aren't "SEC Championship/BCS Championship caliber" yet. I still have some faith in Miles if he makes the appropriate changes over the off season and I think he will.
cough, cough, by jeezus, we have found ourselves with another fence straddling TAFer or LSU imponere? Are you serious?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:23 pm to LSUsMiles
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Hope you have a good priest because your faith will be challenged.
no shite...
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:25 pm to OweO
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IMO, I think the best way to sum up Les Miles at LSU is that he has enough talent to get him out of shitty situations. Chad Jones got him out of MSU, Holliday got him out of Georgia, etc.
That crap happens all the time though. Cody got Saban out of Tennessee with 2 blocked field goals, Jarvis Moss (UF) got Urban Meyer out of South Carolina with a block of a game winning field goal in 2006, Nebraska WR got the great Tom Osborne out of Missouri with a last second miracle catch, etc. You aren't going to be flawless every game week in and week out (especially in the SEC).
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:27 pm to jesterJ
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we have found ourselves with another fence straddling TAFer
Your obsession with the TAF is so fricking weird. Did you get kicked out/not allowed in or something?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:27 pm to jesterJ
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zus, we have found ourselves with another fence straddling TAFer
I go to SMU, not a member of TAF. I'm just stating my opinion.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:28 pm to jesterJ
The only great hire that Miles has made was Pellini. Fisher was leftover from Saban, he had to fire Malloveto after one season, and it looks like he'll have to fire both Crowton and Stud after hiring them both in 2007. Yes, our defense is improved over last year, but it's not a great defense and it has trouble getting three and outs.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:29 pm to OFWHAP
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The only great hire that Miles has made was Pellini. Fisher was leftover from Saban, he had to fire Malloveto after one season, and it looks like he'll have to fire both Crowton and Stud after hiring them both in 2007. Yes, our defense is improved over last year, but it's not a great defense and it has trouble getting three and outs.
Say what you want, but Chavis, Ron Cooper, and Haley is a pretty f*cking impressive lineup.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:40 pm to LSUbase13
Yeah I left out Cooper. Isn't Haley the d-line coach? I hear a lot of people have been bitching about him since they don't get qb pressure and don't really make many tackles for loss or at the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:44 pm to OFWHAP
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Isn't Haley the d-line coach? I hear a lot of people have been bitching about him since they don't get qb pressure and don't really make many tackles for loss or at the line of scrimmage.
Our current d-line (upperclassmen) are "meh"...they aren't much to write home about. We have some EXTREMELY talented freshman and sophmores that will wreck shop on any SEC team in the near future.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 11:52 pm to LSUbase13
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I think he is a better coach/recruiter than most realize. We just witnessed his darkest hour and low point during his career at LSU and I really don't think it'll happen again. Sometimes, people need to screw up really bad to "wake them up" and get back in the mix of things. This isn't 2007 anymore and I think he has now realized this. I think we need to cut ties with Crowton and Studrawa and build from there. We are a few offensive coaches and a solid, more experience offensive line/Jordan Jefferson to get back where we want to be. Even if we would have beaten Ole Miss (who really outplayed us the whole game), we still aren't "SEC Championship/BCS Championship caliber" yet. I still have some faith in Miles if he makes the appropriate changes over the off season and I think he will.
I have been staying away from this whole situation since Saturday, mostly because I really don't know what to think about it. But I think you just wrote my post for me.
Posted on 11/25/09 at 12:01 am to LSUbase13
I wish I could share your faith. Unfortunately, nothing in either the substance or tone of what Miles has said over the last few days have led me to believe that he has suddenly woke up or that the light has gone on. He's demonstrated no fire, no spirit, no desire (or maybe even no ability) to really crack down and straighten things out that I can see.
Hope you're right and I'm wrong.
Hope you're right and I'm wrong.
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